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I know that there are a lot of trans people on hexbear, and I know their beliefs are sincere. What I don’t understand is how they square the fact that they would be brutally suppressed, r*****, tortured, murdered by the very groups/governments they unwaveringly love and support. It sickens me. Is it a manifestation of self-hatred? I just don’t get why they would degrade themselves like this.

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[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 65 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Why would they spend all the effort making this post when their argument is still "you would get thrown off a roof in [country that scares me]"

Also, ideologies are influenced by material conditions. Reactionary ideologies including transphobia have a tailwind in bad economic conditions, this is obvious in the USA now. Reducing Iran's (or gaza, yemen, etc) material conditions through warfare only increases the potential of reactionary ideologies to become a problem.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 44 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Reactionary ideologies including transphobia have a tailwind in bad economic conditions

China really proved through their economic policies in Xinjiang that it really does reduce chuddery. Within 10 years a hotbed of fundamentalism (funded by America) was effectively eliminated through good public policy and raising the standard of living for millions of people. It's why the state department is so mad and called it a "genocide" they can't fathom helping people, they can only think in terms of bombing people.

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 35 points 5 days ago

That's a good point. I wish I understood the details of how Xinjiang has changed over the years but I know it is doing very well now and Uyghur culture is respected and celebrated.

I wish we had public opinion polling from China, because I'm guessing that any "anti-uyghur" sentiment that existed in the non-uyghur population has also gone down in the past 20 years.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This isn't exactly true, there's been a lot more than economic policy in Xinjiang to curb fundamentalism. As a counterexample, Estonia was the most developed, wealthiest and most industrialised USSR republic and it was still a hotbed of anti-russian nationalism.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Of course it's not the only reason, however the region was negelected after the crazy years since opening up in the west, it's why it was targeted by America. Once they started investing in the region and re-educating radicals and getting rid of ETIM influence, the region has become as safe as anywhere else in China.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago

Yeah, fully agreed

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago

Also, even among countries and political organizations that are theocratically queerphobic, it is an exaggeration to call most of them pogromist in that way. The throwing people from rooftops for being gay is an ISIS thing that has just been projected on to every single heavily-Muslim group that liberals don't like. Yeah, Hamas is homophobic and has surely inflicted terrible violence on gay people when it's politically expedient for them, but they aren't hunting gays down to murder them like that because it's not politically expedient to do when you have the IOF trying to kill you (also they've become more secularized over time, but good luck persuading a lib of that).

Literally just Islamophobia but woke.

[–] BreathThroughTheTube@hexbear.net 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Radlibs don't realize that them allowing rainbow imperialism and repeating its narratives spreads reactionary anti-imperialism to oppose it. Every rainbow covered bomb they drop creates a new righteous homophobe yet they keep supporting it. Don’t they see how they are making a reactionary soup with their bullshit and lack of solidarity? Ceding the moral high ground for what? Feeling better about their imperialist nature?