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about:config--appparameter)i get where you're coming from but NO telemetry would be terrible for fixing bugs and idiosyncrasies
Not having telemetry was fine the last 30 years.
you say that, but have you ever tried fixing bugs only based on end-user reports?
there's a reason firefox has open tickets that are 25 years old.
And the reason is, they don’t properly triage bugs.
well, that too
i don't think AI should be killed completely since some people may use it, but it should at least be opt-in.
everything else you suggested is good
AI is the best way to offer local translations that don't send your private data off to someone else's server
If the translations would be any good, yes.
If it's your personal data, I would definitely not send it to a server. A bad AI translation is still better than sending a page containing passwords over the network
This confuses me because all the other browsers have integrated AI, so removing it makes little sense. I do think it will eventually move to the OS though and that time can't come soon enough.
This is one of the reasons I started using Firefox again.
Just make the AI bullshit opt in. I don't want AI, and I'm not alone on that.
You're not alone, but you're in the minority.
Don't think I'm pro AI in the browser, I'm not. I appreciate some of the ML stuff like translations, but as for the rest, it should be shunted to dedicated apps or the OS.
A minority, based on what?
Telemetry
You can't just make claim like that, not show any sort of statisticd and expect to believed.
Where are you getting your data?
To quote mine and probably most peoples mothers 'If your friends jumped off a cliff, would you?'
Depends on what's at the bottom.
The reality is that if Firefox are the only browser not offering AI, they'll lose market share. Yes, all the basement dwellers like ourselves will be happy, but then what? Mozilla already kinda fucked itself by ignoring mobile, Chrome holds an estimated 66% market share with 30% of that estimated to be mobile only users. Firefox's market share is less than 3% in total. They need to garner users, not just appease old ones.
As I said though, I hope that all browsers can remove AI and it can be done at the OS level, so browsers can concentrate on real internet usage issues.
I honestly don't care if browsers add or remove AI, as long as it's opt-in and doesn't cost resources when it's off.