I think true anon must've covered it at some point but recently the radio war nerd guys did a recap of where all that shit came from, basically to explain why trump seemed to actively dislike ukraine at the start of his term because a faction of the ukranian elite decided to align with the democrats.

Basically the only real thing about russia gate was that trump's at one point campaign guy Paul Manafort had done some consulting or other for Yanukovich's ukranian government, which had been democratically elected btw, that meant that there was a record or something of "trump's campaign manager having been given money by pro-putin ukranian", that's literally it, they pulled the thread, it led nowhere cos it was just a finance guy doing consulting but the media blitz made trump fire the guy, he ended up getting arrested but it was for other financial crimes shit. Besides that it was a lot of just made up bullshit.

But in practice it was super destabilizing because it showed a lot of right-wingers that there IS a deep state, that trusted liberal news source DO post fake news that is debunked by right-wing outlets and that this one guy was the target of it all so he must be doing something right

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'll give that a listen during shop time today thanks for sharing. I'm familiar with some of the origin story, but not all. Specifically what I am hoping they (or someone trusted) will cover is the HPSCI report that the admin is out there pushing now. Might just be a rehash of the same old stuff from 2020 but because the push is that Obama should be jailed over it, there's very much a boy who cried wolf feel to it

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow I didn't know they were trying to lock up obama for russia gate, doubt they have much of a case because there's not really a smoking gun since plenty of media outlets pushed russia gate because it aligned with their interests (and good ratings too). Hope it happen anyway though

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same, this is what I was getting at with the insane crankery. They've been talking about locking Obama up now for years so this is probably just more of the same, but maybe not who the fuck knows. The point is we need some real gumshoes with a knack for wading into right wing slop to do some real investigation

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

A gumshoe you say deep-infiltration