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Army Gen. Mark Milley pushed back on claims from Republicans that the military is “woke” and as a result not prepared to take on modern threats, saying he’s “not even sure what that word truly means.”

“What I see is a military that’s exceptionally strong. It’s powerful; it’s ready. In fact, our readiness rates, the way we measure readiness, is better now than they’ve been in years,” Milley said in a CNN interview Sunday.

Republican politicians and candidates have blasted the Pentagon for so-called woke policies, pointing to efforts to recruit a diverse group of military service members and be inclusive to transgender soldiers.

Those claims have also headlined efforts to reduce military spending.

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It still means what it always meant. Being aware of society's injustices to the poor, downtrodden, or minority population and wanting to do something about it. They can't fucking stand that.

Being against being "woke" truly reveals who they are. That they just want to sweep it all under a rug and forget about it.

[–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think that's insufficient anymore if we are considering the right's usage of the word. Marketing or selling products to those groups counts as woke to the right.

[–] yawn@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The right doesn't use language genuinely, so personally I don't really care to consider their usages. The actual definition of words doesn't matter to conservatives, it's not how their brains work. That's why it's so easy for them to form a big tent party, they just need to say meaningless feel good phrases like "law and order", "1776", or "make America great again" to attract voters. That's also why when they get power, they dissolve into infighting and can't govern at all, because it turns out those phrases mean different things to all of them.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 year ago

There's a sartre quote for that I keep around for just this circumstance

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

They don't use words for meaning.

[–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's part of what I meant. Even the length that they admit to doesn't cover the full extent of their real intent.

[–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Isn't that what desantis team defined it as when demanded by court?

[–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

When they are forced to under oath sure but the scope of their malice extends to not just the people they hate but anyone that will interact with them or even engage in commerce with them.