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I didn't come to a new service just to see it get taken over by the corporate beasts who ruined the internet in general, and I am sure as hell am not going to use an instance that doesn't care about its users.

I think the admin of this instance might have been paid off to federate with Threads, it being one of the most popular.

So, I am giving y'all 24 hours to defederate and if the Lemmy.world admins don't, I'm-a bounce and close down my subs behind me

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[–] SaveComengs@lemmy.federa.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope Nope Nope.

I don't agree with OP creating infighting within the fediverse, but I really do agree with his points on defederating.

Have you heard of the term "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish"? It was Microsoft's motto in the 90s to early 2000s of destroying free and open source competition.

The first step: "Embrace" meant to embrace the competition's protocol. Things like the Open Document Format, or in this case ActivityPub. They would make a product that used that protocol, pretending like they were contributing to it.

The second step: "Extend" meant to extend the protocol. They would divert from the way the original protocol worked, and adding more features that would attract the users on the original platform to their one. They would do this in a way that the original platform wouldn't be able to catch up and get feature parity with them, such as making their new protocol closed source.

The final step: "Extinguish" would be that when enough users migrated away from the competition's original platform, they would basically have stolen all the users, profited off the volunteers that made the original product, and made a worse, closed source, non-free alternative.

I know it's pretty fucked up, but this is an actual thing that happened, and it's not just Microsoft. Google's done it with XMPP, and Facebook is probably doing it with Threads this time around.

Here's some more stuff to read about it if you are interested:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

[–] Carter@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your typical Threads user isn't going to use Mastodon or Lemmy though and we won't be using Threads so I can't see either being extinguished.

[–] SaveComengs@lemmy.federa.net 1 points 1 year ago

That's basing off the idea that Lemmy users are all tech nerds though. I know there's a lot of us on the platform, but I also know that we have non tech savvy people on here, and frankly we need them for the content they can provide. We need diversity in ideas, knowledge, and skill to be a successful platform.