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  • Third time support has exceeded 60%, along with 2017 and 2021
  • Republicans primarily behind the increase, with 58% now in favor
  • Political independents remain group most likely to favor third party
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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does the GOP still count as a political party? What is their platform, anyways? I don't think "install a dictator and oppress minorities" counts as a platform. Point is, maybe we should look at getting a second political party first. One that can actually represent conservatives.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The Republican Party is representing conservatives better than it ever has. Installing a dictator and oppressing minorities is what conservatives genuinely want, and always have wanted.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you see what set off someone like James M. Buchanan, as well as people like Falwell: it was about maintaining segregation. This is what motivates so very many of them. Their claims of "conservative values" are so much noise.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep, and the thing the founders of conservative ideology -- Thomas Hobbes, Edmund Burke, Joseph de Maistre, etc. -- had in common was that they were defending monarchy. Conservatism is an unbroken line directly from Royalists, to Confederates, to Nazis, to the alt-right of today.

To the extent that the Republican Party of a few decades ago was not Royalist or Confederate or Nazi, it was only because the conservative influence was tempered by having to form a coalition with other factions and constrained by having to work within a liberal democratic system. But now those other factions have essentially been ejected from the party and it is working with 100% laser focus on breaking the liberal democratic system, so here we are. And the conservatives are loving it.

Let me tell you about the cult I belonged to once that explicitly preached the US was made by their god, but also wanted to install the head of their cult as king of the US (because the united states didn't fight two wars to get rid of those) and eventually world.

[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They have no platform, they didn't even bother to make one during the last party convention

[–] Techmaster@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

They had that one banner that said something like "we are domestic terrorists." I think that's basically their platform.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The funny thing is that they did. They copied their 2016 platform - including language that denounced the current administration. (At the time it was originally drafted, Obama, but on reuse it targeted Trump.) They can't even copy paste properly.