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When going to use Adobe express on Firefox it comes up with the following message, saying that this browser doesn't play well with others and that I should use Safari, Google Chrome, or Microsoft Edge instead.

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[–] PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As someone that is the manager of a web app for a FANG company, it’s not easy to support everything. Right now we don’t support Firefox because the APIs we use (and don’t own) don’t support it. To enable support is then dependent on those other companies/teams to add support which can sometimes be years to develop. Chrome is easier to support because it’s based on Safari and so many other browsers use it as well.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This attitude makes my blood boil. Firefox is the last FOSS web-rendering engine standing against your privacy-destroying FAANG oligopoly. If we lose Firefox, the web becomes de-facto privatized.

Some trust-busting is in order. Hopefully Brussels is on the case.

NB: this vituperation is obviously directed to your company, not you personally.

[–] PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be clear, this is not an “attitude” or my personal view. This is just the reality of the situation. It takes years to develop comparable tech that allows apps to work across platforms. This is the same reason that Windows is prioritized over macOS, and macOS over Linux. It is just the realities of development and targeting the largest user bases.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Sure. But unless our collective priorities fall from the sky, then this situation must ultimately be the "attitude" of someone or something, right? You describe it in neutral terms as if it we were talking about the weather or something. That is what irritates me. After all, this creeping erosion of software freedom also happens to be in the interests of the FAANG company you work for. Yes, it's "reality", it's a very convenient reality.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How is Chrome based on Safari?

[–] igorlogius@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks! Always happy to learn something new. This is saddening actually because it means that two of the big rendering engines today are more similar than different.

[–] PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Google used Apples WebKit and is still closely aligned to it.

Edit: So while technically Chrome is not a fork of Safari, they used enough of Apples tech that personally I don’t think it can be considered a uniquely independent product.