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[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

You're just further proving my point. But whatever, have fun with your AfD Nazis.

[-] trollercoaster@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Don't worry, I won't have fun with the Nazis. As I remarked somewhere else, I regret that the German political spectrum is missing credible parties on the left. This has unfortunately led to a right shift of the entire political spectrum, which has enabled the AFD Nazis to gain popularity in the first place. Of course, shitting on the less wealthy parts of the population by pretty much all major parties does help with increasing that popularity even further, because they appeal specifically to those parts of the population, of course with the intent of shitting on them later.

But as you keep proving, people really don't bother with looking into what their favourite political parties are actually doing, or have done in the past, and prefer to let themselves get blinded by advertisements and Sunday speeches. If you don't want to go as far back as the Schröder government, just look at this let them eat cake moment of your beloved Greens. Things like that are why I think they haven't changed since then. If they were to change, they'd have to prove it. And as long as people keep voting for them instead of calling them out for being a bunch of neoliberal sociopaths, they won't change.

Unless a credible left alternative manifests itself, that actually improves conditions for the less wealthy, I unfortunately don't see much of a chance of avoiding a Nazi shitshow, because the political spectrum will continue drifting further to the right.

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

Yet you're here, spewing the same bullshit propaganda points of the AfD trolls. Makes it really hard to take you seriously. Those points have been disproven countless times already, it just gets old and tiresome, especially when they get repeated a hundred times each and every single day on political topics. But sure, keep on going. The matter of the fact remains that they're the only party left worth voting for in the Bundestag, especially if you actually care about the future.

[-] trollercoaster@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago

Which points have been disproven?

My main point on the Greens still being a neoliberal shitshow that doesn't care about poor people was proven by a Green politician himself, who brazenly demanded from low income people to lower their living standard in order to be able to afford rising energy prices, while boasting about how he upgraded his own house to depend less on fossil energies. This, of course, isn't all that difficult to afford when you're living on a cushy state prime minister's salary. A party that tolerates people who not only think like that, but also make those thoughts a public statement, isn't really much better than the FDP.

The matter of the fact remains that they’re the only party left worth voting for in the Bundestag

This rhetoric of there being no alternatives is getting old. It's the same old narrative the SPD and Greens used when taking the axe to social security and workers' rights under Schröder.

Of course, the other parties are even worse, but that doesn't make the Greens any good. And the entire political spectrum being a steaming pile of shit is what is driving voters into the arms of the Nazis, because not everyone has a moral compass strong enough to prevent them from voting for such despicable people.

especially if you actually care about the future

Oh yes, a bright future in which the lower classes have to lower their living standard in order to pay for the upper classes greenwashing theirs.

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago
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