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Iran has told Israel through the UN that it will intervene if the country’s operations against Hamas in Gaza continue, a report has claimed.

Israel has warned 1.1 million people living in the north of the enclave to evacuate ahead of an expected ground operation in Gaza with the IDF planning to strike the territory from land, sea and air.

Iran’s involvement could be through a militant group from Syria or by backing Hezbollah to join the conflict, diplomatic sources told Axios.

Meanwhile, Iran’s foreign minister Hossein Amirabdollahian said that Israel’s operations could cause fighting to expand to other areas of the Middle East which would cause Israel to suffer “a huge earthquake”, reported the Associated Press.

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[–] xGIHOST@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Real question: why is the us so involved with israel?
Is it just a "sunk cost fallacy" thing or is it any more than that?

It feels weird sinking so much money for someone else's wars over so many decades.. like trillions over wars and apart from ukraine recently its been always and only israel demanding the aid

[–] Pat12@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Real question: why is the us so involved with israel?

they're meant to be a main ally in the middle east for the US

most of the other countries are either allied with Russia/China/Iran/etc or too unstable

there's also massive israel lobbying in the US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_lobby_in_the_United_States

[–] bonus_crab@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

tbh kinda the US's only ally. Turkey kinda is, and Saudi Arabia really just sells us oil.

[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The US is a global, industrial empire. To maintain that position, we need to make sure threats to our influence are kept to a minimum, and we need to provide security to the global trade system that we and our allies benefit from. Israel is aligned with the West culturally and ideologically, and so it's a natural partner, and given its location in an oil-rich region, right next to the Suez Canal, and a stone's throw from or bordering several of our major global adversaries' proxies, it's a natural and necessary ally.

Anything else, like the Evangelicals' bizarre obsession, is purely coincidence or post-facto.

[–] Rengoku@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

And there is that Islamists on the other side. Indonesians (muslims) really detest America and Israel, for example.

Funny thing is Christians and other minor religion followers support Israel because of local tension (minorities are suppressed in Indonesia).

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Half of evangelicals support Israel because they believe it is important for fulfilling end-times prophecy

According to prophecy, Israel must exist to bring about rapture, when Jesus's followers will ascend to heaven and everyone else will be killed. Since they are not followers of Christ all Israelis would be killed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/05/14/half-of-evangelicals-support-israel-because-they-believe-it-is-important-for-fulfilling-end-times-prophecy/

[–] Fungah@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They probably think they're s clever. "Silly Jews, you think you've got such a good deal with all this free money but wait until the magic sky man comes and murders every one of you in cold blood because that's what somebody who claims to love people does, murders billions of them, and you're first! Ha ha. Silly magic sky man, doesn't even know about all the loopholes."

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I read this in Homer Simpson's voice.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Corruption and money laundering through the military complex. I mean who needs free medical care anyways, right? That's for European commies.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Evangelical caucus believes that the Jews trying to build the third temple will make the rapture happen.

Dumbfucks can't even read their own book right.

[–] nbafantest@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Almost all that money ends up back in the United States.

[–] extant@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have a lot of enemies out that way and so do they, so we became allies and support them because it's in our best interest. We keep supporting them because apparently they've held up whatever end of the bargain we request and for the US money is easy.

[–] Scalatons@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah they just print more of it

[–] elscallr@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well a few years back a group of really nasty people tried to murder every Jewish person. Then a thing or two happened, the USA nuked a few cities because the State in which those cities existed allied themselves with the people that wanted to murder all the Jews.

Now, we have the back of the Jews, and one of Hamas' stated purposes is to murder all the Jews. Makes sense we'd be interested in keeping that from happening. Genocide is kind of a bad thing.

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Big yikes. History revisionist.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Generally speaking he's not incorrect.

[–] xGIHOST@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Generally speaking that's a lot of self-serving bs narrative