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Iran has told Israel through the UN that it will intervene if the country’s operations against Hamas in Gaza continue, a report has claimed.

Israel has warned 1.1 million people living in the north of the enclave to evacuate ahead of an expected ground operation in Gaza with the IDF planning to strike the territory from land, sea and air.

Iran’s involvement could be through a militant group from Syria or by backing Hezbollah to join the conflict, diplomatic sources told Axios.

Meanwhile, Iran’s foreign minister Hossein Amirabdollahian said that Israel’s operations could cause fighting to expand to other areas of the Middle East which would cause Israel to suffer “a huge earthquake”, reported the Associated Press.

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[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 163 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Israel is 110% not going to heed this warning in the absolute slightest.

[–] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 121 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Iran does not pose a credible military threat to Israel. They only have a couple of options - terrorist attacks from their proxies, maybe a cross-border incursion from Lebanon that would be a slaughter and change the balance of power there, or an air strike. Israel is so amped up right now that they’d respond with airstrikes inside Iran, and US carrier groups are in the area with no misunderstanding as to what they signify.

This is saber-rattling for theatrics.

[–] dependencyInjection@sh.itjust.works 63 points 1 year ago (25 children)

Iran are not wrong though, Israel need to chill.

It’s really annoying how the mainstream media is like yeah this is cool, when they’re commuting atrocities no better than Hamas committed.

I don’t know what it is with Israel that makes the world walk on eggshells but they have committed horrific acts and they should be called out on it.

Fucking monsters the Israeli government are.

[–] Echo71Niner@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fucking monsters the Israeli government are.

They are despicably evil.

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[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, the only thing Israel is concerned about is the international reputation. They know they can't go full ham, even now every western government in support is dropping the "and I am SURE Israel will keep to international law" as a hint and reminder that there is a limit somewhere.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Lol... The UN has been trying to chastise Israel for decades now for literally breaking international law, and the US shuts it down with their veto power. They've already been doing it for decades.

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[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

I thought I was too late to invest in war companies, but perhaps that was premature.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Doesn't that seem unethical, even if it might be lucrative?

[–] chili1553@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it's good enough for elected US representatives, it's good enough for me.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They were talking about ethics, something an elected official would know nothing about.

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[–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

The true answer is unequivocally yes. Fuck everyone who says otherwise trying to justify this ghoulish shit.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would argue the whole system is unethical. Capitalism has never bothered itself with ethics. That said, it's arguably even more unethical.

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[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So this could widen to Israel/USA/UN(?) vs Iran/Syria/Lebanon(Hezbollah)/Gaza(Hamas) which would essentially be The War on Terror II. Which means another ~20yrs in the Middle East. Oh goody.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Lockheed 📈📈📈

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

time to invest in knife missiles

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[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just what the world needs. I am getting some faint WWI vibes too. Maybe I am just being paranoid. But it seems like this could expand to more middle eastern countries than you've listed, should things go horribly wrong. I could also see this being turned into another proxy war—revenge by Russia for Western support for Ukraine.

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[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And this can easily lead to more wars in the Middle East. Once more, innocent will die, and soldiers will not return home because stupid bloodlusting leaders of Israel, Iran, and Hamas just can't get enough blood.

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[–] xGIHOST@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (28 children)

Real question: why is the us so involved with israel?
Is it just a "sunk cost fallacy" thing or is it any more than that?

It feels weird sinking so much money for someone else's wars over so many decades.. like trillions over wars and apart from ukraine recently its been always and only israel demanding the aid

[–] Pat12@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Real question: why is the us so involved with israel?

they're meant to be a main ally in the middle east for the US

most of the other countries are either allied with Russia/China/Iran/etc or too unstable

there's also massive israel lobbying in the US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_lobby_in_the_United_States

[–] bonus_crab@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

tbh kinda the US's only ally. Turkey kinda is, and Saudi Arabia really just sells us oil.

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[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The US is a global, industrial empire. To maintain that position, we need to make sure threats to our influence are kept to a minimum, and we need to provide security to the global trade system that we and our allies benefit from. Israel is aligned with the West culturally and ideologically, and so it's a natural partner, and given its location in an oil-rich region, right next to the Suez Canal, and a stone's throw from or bordering several of our major global adversaries' proxies, it's a natural and necessary ally.

Anything else, like the Evangelicals' bizarre obsession, is purely coincidence or post-facto.

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[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Half of evangelicals support Israel because they believe it is important for fulfilling end-times prophecy

According to prophecy, Israel must exist to bring about rapture, when Jesus's followers will ascend to heaven and everyone else will be killed. Since they are not followers of Christ all Israelis would be killed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/05/14/half-of-evangelicals-support-israel-because-they-believe-it-is-important-for-fulfilling-end-times-prophecy/

[–] Fungah@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They probably think they're s clever. "Silly Jews, you think you've got such a good deal with all this free money but wait until the magic sky man comes and murders every one of you in cold blood because that's what somebody who claims to love people does, murders billions of them, and you're first! Ha ha. Silly magic sky man, doesn't even know about all the loopholes."

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[–] Aux@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Corruption and money laundering through the military complex. I mean who needs free medical care anyways, right? That's for European commies.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Proxy war between the US and Iran

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think if Iran steps in with feet on the ground, the US probably will too, unfortunately.

Fucking Nicky Hailey is foaming at the mouth for it to happen.

[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Iran won't go officially. They'll just pay Hezbollah to go in.

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[–] avater@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (30 children)

Oh the rogue nation wants to play along? Isn't supporting the Russians against my country enough?

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

As if Iran's fingers weren't in the fucking pot from the start of this shit show. Bitch we've got the receipts that you all but handed Hamas the plans for their little murder rape and pillaging expedition.

[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For real. This is so blatantly a play by Iran to drive a wedge between Israel and the Islamic nations it has recently been normalizing relations with - UAE, Bahrain, Sudan, Morocco... They were in talks with Saudi Arabia, and that would have been a bridge too far.

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[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't this the plot to Arma 3? Does Iran have the East wind Device?!

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