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Morrissey said if new testing of the gun showed it was working, she would recharge Baldwin.

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[–] hiddengoat@kbin.social 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

You pull a firearm’s trigger you bear responsibility for what happens. Period.

Utterly wrong. The ONLY person that bears any responsibility for firearm safety on the set of a movie is the armorer.

  • Unless absolutely necessary, no live or blank firing arms should be accessible to actors.
  • When needed, the armorer will verify the safety of the blank or live firearm and hand it to the actor. Depending on the armorer and the situation they may not even allow the actor to do something as simple as turn the safety off.
  • After firing the weapon, the armorer will take the firearm from the actor, clear it, and remove it from the set.

One person has that responsibility. In situations where there are multiple live or blank firing arms there may be multiple individuals with those same resposibilities, but ultimately it will still come down to the one in charge.

Repeat after me: A MOVIE SET IS NOT A GUN RANGE. You are not dealing with even twice a year hobbyist shooters. You are not in a controlled environment. The protocols that are used for firearms on set have been developed after decades of trial and error, and these are situations where said error ends in death. Trying to apply range logic to a movie set is what gets people killed, which is why sets do not work like that. You have one dedicated professional whose job is ensuring the safety of everyone on set WRT firearms. At no point did Baldwin have any responsibility to check any weapon as any weapon available to him at that time, by protocol, should have ONLY been a "weapon shaped object." That is, a chunk of rubber or plastic molded from a real weapon that's used for doing things like blocking shots (which is what Baldwin was doing) and generally carrying around a scene. Instead, the armorer had zero control over where firearms ended up and Baldwin picked up what he thought was a prop gun. Instead, it was a loaded live firearm. The scene involved Baldwin pointing a gun at the camera and pulling the trigger.

In no way is Baldwin criminally liable here.

Note I say nothing about civil liability. In my opinion, he's is absolutely responsible for helping create a lax working environment by continuing to employ an armorer that clearly did not give a shit about doing their job properly.

EDIT to mention that Baldwin and the production company VERY quickly came to a settlement agreement with the family of the deceased. They were always going to win so it basically just skipped over a meaningless trial.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-approves-settlement-rust-shooting-lawsuit-halyna-hutchins/story?id=99788957

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Might be a good argument for using clearly fake stuff in movies further on. Just hand the actor a TV remote and CGI in a hand gun or a plastic sci-fi "gun" that has no means of firing anything.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

George Lucas turned guns into walkie talkies for the E.T. rerelease. Going the other way should be possible.