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Morrissey said if new testing of the gun showed it was working, she would recharge Baldwin.

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[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought this was an onion article and Baldwin wouldn't agree to stop playing trump on snl, so they charged him again.

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 78 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (49 children)

This is literally what happened. Someone took satire personally and it wasn’t even about them.

Worse: they are saying that he, rather than the weapons handler, is somehow responsible as if he should know more than an expert.

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[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 61 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Wow that DA can’t get over the fact that someone dared to make fun of papa maga.

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does this have to do with the orange turd?

[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago

When your entire personality is worshipping a conman, everything is directly because of or against the shit Oompa Loompa.

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[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nobody has yet explained why live ammunition was on a movie set???????????????

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They were in a desert so some of the staff thought they would get some shooting in. That simple, that dumb.

OTOH, even then, how did live ammo find it's way into the prop gear? One of those things where there had to be several dumb mistakes.

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The staff was shooting the prop gun. That's how live ammo ended up in that gun.

But like... How the fuck was that something that was allowed. I think that is the question.

I see Alec responsible as a producer, not as an actor. He should be no more or less responsible than any other producer involved UNLESS his role somehow was more related to guns/safety than other producers.

[–] JonEFive@midwest.social 14 points 1 year ago

There's an armorer who was completely derelict in her duties. She's been charged with involuntary manslaughter. It was specifically her job not to let this happen.

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

"C'moooon, it'll be fiiiiiiine, what's the worst that could happen?"

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[–] RIPandTERROR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 1 year ago

Good idea. He's looking a bit low on battery.

[–] Rusticus@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Would be great if all the pro 2a trolls in this thread had the same outrage for all the dead kids in the US from firearms. Smh.

[–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The right has been pretty open about what kind of America they want to live in and what they're willing to do to get there. We should all believe them and take them seriously, because they are fucking serious.

Fascist militias are popping up left and right, and the only gun control measures that pass end up restricting the rights of citizens in blue states while red states continue expanding their own. Unless you can magically disarm the entire nation simultaneously that cat is out of the bag.

I'm optimistic about the future and hold no deluded fantasies of armed conflict, but there may come a time where you'll wish you had access to normal capacity magazines and non-nerfed rifles. Jon Stewart is not going to come rescue you when they have you on your knees in front of a ditch.

Disarming the working class under the current hyper-capitalist regime doesn't really work in our favor either, and in most instances gun control is proven to be a political loser that equals to nothing more than a waste of time/effort and only serves to cripple a campaign.

Pro 2a isn't a single sided issue and should not be treated as such.

[–] Rusticus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (23 children)

Listen, I get it. I'm a multiple gun owner. I grew up with guns and have shot competitively. But make no mistake, as a country we have decided that the right to own a weapon designed to kill people is more important than the children that are killed every year by gun violence. Gun deaths are not a mental health problem, nor a magazine problem, nor a "scary looking rifle" problem. It's a gun problem. I highly recommend Malcolm Gladwell's recent 6 part podcast series on this topic. And for the record, while I am a gun owner, I would happily accept common sense gun regulations or even a ban if our country ever collectively decided that they give a shit about human lives and each other. Will it happen? No.

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[–] applejacks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

stupid comment:

  • people who have different opinions that you are not "trolls" they just disagree with you
  • do you think pro 2A folks think that people that commit gun crimes shouldn't be punished?

One thing they rightfully always bring up is that in many of these shootings, the existing laws weren't even being followed, yet they always spur cries for new laws that would only hurt law abiding citizens.

I am going to ask you to actually consider the following situation. Let's say in the future hate speech is criminalized. If someone goes and says something very evil, would you support removing the first amendment rights of all citizens based on their actions?

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[–] Case@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Oh, the gun violence, and failure to have a more modern and inclusive health care (including mental health) are absolutely entwined.

The US is failing its citizens every day. In so many ways.

Yet on the right they're dicking about without a speaker and heading the US to a government shutdown.

There's a problem with our two party system, and there is no good solution that I can see. I live in the south. Die hard cult members around here, and this is the suburbs of a major city that leans more to the left (just like any urban center tends to) but leaning left from fascism is not enough.

I am a lefty on most things, just not 2a. Sadly the group that likes guns also seems to like the christofascist political folks.

The brainwashing is real. Went through some myself, and it still troubles my thoughts. Do I believe in something because I actually believe it, or was it instilled in me at a young age and I don't recall the source? I try to challenge my perception of things frequently, some efforts more successful than others.

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