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[–] Jay@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This joke is really old now.

And yes, even if such mistakes are funny at first glance, it doesn't change the fact that the field of AI has developed incredibly in the last year. And this development actually has the potential to completely change our economy. And not only that.

No, I'm not fun at parties.

[–] bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] someacnt@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

I wanna see what happens as the inevitable market crash comes!

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot more companies are making and saving quite a lot of money because of it

People downplaying the value of AI are like people in 1993 talking about how the Internet is just a playground for nerds.

[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most companies are still piggybacking off of big tech because of the scale of LLMs. If big tech companies are having problems then everyone else will sooner or later. The more simple ones can probably be done on worse machines but not all and certainly not something on the scale of ChatGPT

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

They're "piggybacking off of big tech" the way every company that uses PowerPoint does

I'm sorry man but this comment just laughs in the face of reality. The use of AI across the board is skyrocketing.

I no longer need a video team, or to outsource video content creation, because of a tool we get for $20/month. This is the tiniest fraction of the currebtly-deployed impact.

My last company implemented AI-run workforce planning, AI-enabled call monitoring that cut out QA team more than in half, and AI chat systems that freed up 80% of our chat team to transition to Live.

That's 2 companies. There are hundreds of AI products out there. AI will be everywhere in less than a decade.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I no longer need a video team, or to outsource video content creation, because of a tool we get for $20/month

Not disproving the AI will kill too many jobs alegation.

[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you running your PowerPoint directly off of Azure? You must be having the most greatest slideshow on earth then.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

You must be having the most greatest slideshow on earth the

Your disingenuous post aside, I kind of do, yeah

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah yes, the trend of every new technological development ever. Apparently investment is "hemorrhaged money" until it's profitable.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then it will only be profitable for a time until the people have no money to spend cuz no jobs.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The full automation of the economy won't be for a century or more, and as manual labor dries up there will be new work in robotics technician fields and AI development and training.

I'm not saying we don't need to prepare with taxation and UBI, but the jobs aren't just going to disappear overnight, that's ridiculous.

[–] bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You didn't even bother reading it. This isn't counting investment, it's straight up losing money right now, not counting investment. Microsoft's customer model charges $10 a month/user to use it and it's turned out to cost $30 a month/user. The other big firms are seeing similar costs.

These LLM require huge amounts of processing, then when your users are spending resources to do very simple tasks, which is basically all the models are useful for right now, it costs a stupid amount of money to do stupid things.

This is not to say that it cant be useful in the future, or smaller purpose built models can't be useful. But these vast generic models literally hemorrhage money as it stands.

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Some features are meant to drive engagement, not revenue. Some products are sold at a loss to drive engagement. This article is a very simplistic view of how technology has always worked for a product in it's infancy.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Listen here, robot: Reminder that the Nothing forever hiccup just happened in February of this year. And struggles with POC facial recognition has been a source of discrimination still even now. You’re really trying to sell yourself as better than you are, AI. But you Can’t fool me.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

also, no one said the AI that is going to replace everyone's jobs and kill the economy because we don't have a society or economical system that can survive that amount of job losses inside of it was going to be good, or accurate.

the goal of ai isn't to be good or accurate, it's to seem plausible.

[–] arken@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

The history of chatbots for support purposes show us that jobs will be replaced not when they can be done as good, but good enough, and what "enough" means is going to be a race to the bottom kind of situation over time.

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy is the worst place to get your information on the field of AI or really tech in general lol. "Technology" is a bad word and the only upvoted posts are just false confirmation bias that tech corporations are in some sort if imaginary "death spiral".

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude for real. Even the "technology" community is just people shitting on everything from eVTOLs to AI, should be called c/luddites instead.

Most of lemmy doesn't even understand how this shit works let alone has the knowledge to be an authority on it. There's constant "oh this is going to make the company go under, stupid AI can't possibly take our jobs!" Nonsense. Yet the cash keeps rolling in and AI becomes more and more integrated into every company.

Hell our cloud engineering team is currently building an in house model to assist data entry level workers with accessing the necessary data they need to do their jobs, and my team has used it to set up automated SFTP backups of our network gear.

It's not going anywhere, and whenever someone says it's useless because you can mislead it intentionally, or that it's just a gimmick cause they "can't see what it's good for," it's a safe bet they're just some gig economy worker who can't conceive of a world outside their bubble.

[–] someacnt@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cash keeps rolling

That has been because of the liquidity. Now see what happens as liquidity dries up.

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ok let us know when that happens lmao