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[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Should someone be allowed to build their own house?

If so, should someone be allowed to sell that house to someone else?

If so, should someone be allowed to charge the price they desire for the asset they own?

Let’s say these publicly provided houses are no longer needed (people move out, because a local industry shuts down). Should the builder (the council or whatever the regional public institutions are called) be allowed to sell these houses off?

I mean, you can answer no to those questions and remain consistent to your ideology. But then be honest about what you want the state to be and behave towards its citizens.

Or you can answer yes to at least one of them and realise that it’s pretty hard not to create speculation in housing, without doing something unethical to people.

[–] LittleTransPunk@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Capitalism shouldn't exist so your point is moot

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Ok, but just humour me.

Should someone be allowed to build their own house?

If they have a house, are they allowed to give it to someone else in exchange for something?

Could that something they exchange it for be a rare asset, which takes a long time to produce and stores easily?

Should someone be allowed to store that asset on your behalf and issue a piece of paper that promises to repay the bearer?

Congrats, you’ve invented money, banking, investments, fractional reserves etc etc

And it starts with a simple question: Do you recognise ownership? Everything follows from that.

… and if you don’t recognise ownership in this future world of yours, I expect you’ll have a hard time convincing people it’ll be very enticing.

[–] LittleTransPunk@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Okay

Yes

Yes

Yes

No

You invented bartering, not money

I respect personal property, as soon as property is used for profit it's private property and I don't respect private property