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I found I2P much better than Tor network, and now it supports BitTorrent protocol too https://geti2p.net/en/docs/applications/bittorrent .

Why haven't the pirates migrated to I2P? Why are we still using clearnet and making people backout of seeding cause of DMCA?

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[–] Rearsays@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Likely because Usenet still works and so does xdcc via irc.

[–] SpaceToast@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can usenet be used without paying?

[–] Rearsays@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I had someone explain to me how it really isn't a privacy concern to use usenet but financially it does feel like a bit of a bamboozle but you have to realize that usenet often will max out your download speed which is pretty nice and it has some magic that prevents people from knowing what you're trying to access so it's likely worth the like $10/mo

[–] darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Torrenting often maxes out my download speed as well.

[–] Rearsays@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There’s almost no way to really hide you as a user in that protocol.

[–] kostel_thecreed@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shouldn't a VPN hide you? I get that port + user agent can be an identifier, but all you have to do is stay up to date and change your port every so often, then you're good. If not, let me know, cheers

[–] Rearsays@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

tl;dr bit torrent is just a way to overcome file distribution issues in a secure and repeatable way and by secure I don't mean private and yes vpn can work if implemented correctly but theres lots of failure modes for vpns which will leak your info. Just about any old turd with php skills and no real knowledge of how privacy works can spin up a legitimate enough looking vpn company to dip into all of the people looking to skirt Netflix rules.

I said specifically "in that protocol" all bit torrent does is it breaks down everything to a hash that can be looked up in a dht wich holds all of the addresses of the individuals sharing that hashed data. I'm not wrong. You can always have a vpn I mean look how hard China tries to stop vpns and still will likely never really nail it down so long as cryptography on the internet is necessary. They would have to deploy Red Star Linux and a whole gestapo to randomly audit chinese citizens computers directly. So long as we have open source hardware keeping big tech and ~~five~~ eyes etc countries and spy agencies a touch more honest we will have lots of ways around all of the censorship and antipiracy trashbags.

[–] kostel_thecreed@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

You just rambled on for a bit without really answering my question: how does taking the proper measures (VPN, changing port, updating client, using anonymous mode if available) not make you more private during the file sharing?

I understand how the bittorrent protocol works, but with constant randomization you should have no unique identifier except if youre the only seeder on 10 old torrents... So please clarify

[–] illiteratewhino@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you look around you can get it for $3.50 a month (I have an account with News Demon that's unlimited for that price, which I don't remember exactly but I think I got it during a black friday sale)

[–] Rearsays@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Just remember that this is no longer Reddit and you're likely welcomed to post links to things for other Lemmy users to find.

[–] d4nm3d@demmy.co.uk 4 points 1 year ago

Usenet can yes.. absolutely.. but likely only for the text groups.. for binary newsgroups you're going to have to pay and you'll need to do your research to find one that's (ideally) not a highwinds backed supplier as they automate DMCA takedowns.

[–] ScratchySoft@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does Usenet work over college wi-fi? I'm not sure how that would work.

[–] d4nm3d@demmy.co.uk 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

that all depends on your college and how much your IT admins have locked down their connection.. Usenet will work on any connection.. unless it's being actively blocked.

[–] Rearsays@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

my first impulse is to say does bit torrent? Secondly usenet is an ancient protocol so maybe? Honestly have no idea