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[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I hadn't heard of Microsoft Pluton, so I looked it up. It sounds like it's some kind of CPU hardware module that implements security policies directly into the system. Pretty gross, but should be easy enough to avoid by just not buying computers with that processor.

IMO this post is a bit misleading because the image without context makes it seem as though the Windows OS is the thing intervening here, when that doesn't appear to be the case.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

This post is misleading (and apparently fake?) for a lot of reasons.

But

Pretty gross, but should be easy enough to avoid by just not buying computers with that processor.

Not really. TPM 2 (?) is already (effectively) a requirement for Windows 11. Yes, you can (probably) still choose to buy a CPU and Mobo that don't support it but there is zero incentive for manufacturers to make those going forward. Why would Intel or AMD or Gigabyte or whatever make a device that can't install the OS that the vast majority of their customers will want to use? And Windows 10 will be EOL sooner than later.

Assuming it hasn't already happened (and it probably has, but I just can't be bothered to check), there will be no non-TPM 2.0 options in the very near future. And that will extend to whatever hardware Pluton and whatever else require.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

should be easy enough to avoid by just not buying computers with that processor

Intel ME / AMD PSP are similar things already on CPUs today, and because pretty much all x86 CPUs have it, it's very hard to avoid it. They're basically builtin Intel/AMD spyware and the only way you can get rid of them is by using something like Coreboot, which has very limited availability

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago

Who's buying 32-bit CPUs anymore?

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

Microsoft has a lot of pull on hardware manufacturers, like all PCs are required to contain a TPM module in order to be compatible with Windows 11. And sadly, most consumers will either want a macOS or Windows-based systems. Unless we see more ARM and/or RISC-V systems becoming mainstream, systems without a TPM module are not going to be very common outside of enthusiasts circles.

[–] beta_tester@lemmy.ml -5 points 10 months ago

I don't think it's confusing. The first words are: "Microsoft Pluton prevented...",

Maybe only because I knew what Pluton was.