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It’s Official: With “Vermin,” Trump Is Now Using Straight-up Nazi Talk He’s telling us what he will do to his political enemies if he’s president again. Is anyone listening?

I feel pretty safe in saying that we can now stop giving him the benefit of that particular doubt. His use—twice; once on social media, and then repeated in a speech—of the word “vermin” to describe his political enemies cannot be an accident. That’s an unusual word choice. It’s not a smear that one just grabs out of the air. And it appears in history chiefly in one context, and one context only.

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[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

He's constitutionally ineligible for office.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You and I agree he's ineligible, but if 2016-2020 has taught us anything, it's that our laws and rules mean nothing if the courts don't enforce them.

What happens if Trump appointed judges decide that Trump still can be on the ballot? What if they decide that insurrection isn't disqualifying because reasons?

Trump could get into office again and shred any bits of the Constitution that he hasn't already ripped up. And this time, he might decide that he's not leaving office and judges he appoints could agree.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Then we move on to other forms of redress

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand that there is a huge argument for that. However, I wasn't under the impression that this is proven. It would potentially go to the Supreme Court. I don't have faith in the court as its currently configured.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Congress could make this vote on their own motion. It's only going to the courts because people can't coordinate a way of forcing a vote through the legislature.

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, I couldn't have any less faith in a Republican led house. They can barely elect a speaker or pass a budget. Anything more meaningful than that will certainly be off the table. Especially since they are all cowards and refused to call a spade a spade with Trump.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The most beautiful thing, in my opinion, about 14a3 is that in times of crisis when we are likely to be divided, the vote is designed to fail. It's a bottom line, 2/3 majority in both houses to requalify.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rules don't apply to him because Democrats are only interested in following rules that keep themselves ineffective.

[–] JonEFive@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

They worry to much about "escalation" and the Republicans saying "don't you do that, or we'll do it too!". They were going to do it anyway as soon as their old tricks didn't work.

[–] Gumus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I am the Constitution"- The Heritage Foundation

[–] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

See the other comments up and down this thread

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ummm, no. Where did you come up with that one?

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And? No one has official barred him from running. Just because we hate him, doesn't mean he's blocked from running.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Until Congress votes to redeem his candidacy he's ineligible. It takes the type of reading comprehension that public schools avoid teaching up to.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is definitely not true. No one has barred his candidacy.

[–] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for being a voice of reason here. seems too many are thinking with their hearts and not their heads. i appreciate that you don't like the man but can still see the logic in the situation.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

What logic?

Is he a Nazi? Yup

Is he a criminal? Yup

Should he be ineligible? Yup.

Is he? Not yet.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He openly supported the J6 coup attempt. He's ineligible.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Listen. I hate Trump.

But, as of right now, there is NO legal ruling anywhere in the U.S., that has made him ineligible.

You repeatedly saying so, doesn't make it so.

[–] Faera@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you murder someone, have you broken the law? Yes (most likely) . Are you going to jail? Well only if they catch you, and prove it in court.

People above are saying they believe he's ineligible because of what he did. They're not saying that all necessary procedures to actually decide and declare him ineligible has been completed. I.e, he should be ineligible based on what he's done, but he hasn't yet been made ineligible in practice.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social -1 points 1 year ago

He has in a few states, granted it's being challenged in court

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If Trump was a competent leader there wouldn't be a system to make such a ruling. It's by design.