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[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Our government is broken.

We shouldn't need to pass a bill to prevent lies and irrational theories from being taught. Honestly, I can't think of a reason why government should be telling teachers what they should be discussing at all (just like telling mothers how to deal with their health) - other than ensuring that children be given the best opportunities in the real world.

new standards published by the Florida State Board of Education earlier this year, which included language on “how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.”

How the hell does a school board even exist that could adopt this? This should never have passed in the first place. There's too many bandaids in government resolving things that shouldn't have ever been passed by idiots in the first place.

How the hell can anyone (DeSantis) continue being a government leader while claiming that slavery is beneficial?

This is what happens when people have little choice in elections but to vote for the candidates they dislike the least. We don't get to vote for people we like, for people we believe to represent our values. We're screwed by a two party system that's funded by corporations and legislated by lobbyists. Ranked. Choice. Voting.

[–] HorseWithNoName@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

I had a sociology professor who taught us about Harriett Jacobs as a counter to racist claims like this (because apparently students now have to have evidence to back up why slavery was bad. That's where we are.)

Harriet Jacobs lived in a crawl space for seven years after escaping her enslavers until she could make it to the north. I wish I could find the video we watched, but it basically said it was so small she couldn't even stand up. That would be considered torture in other circumstances. And imagine living in a crawl space with no heat in the winter or AC in the summer, in the South? But it was still preferable to being property.

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How the hell does a school board even exist that could adopt this?

Florida is a retirement state full of old white people. They are the last vestiges of racism in its old form. Of course those old assholes are pushing back against the idea that it was their families that caused racial inequality in America.

It's like when descendants of Nazis try to say that their own grandpappy didn't do any of the killing, he just had the swastika on his uniform he wasn't that bad.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does a retirement state of old people impact the school boards?
How does 45 year old Ron DeSantis qualify as "those old assholes"?

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

People are likely to vote in someone who enacts policies they want. Politicians pander to voting blocks by introducing policy that appeals to them.

It's not hard to connect the dots?

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We shouldn’t need to pass a bill to prevent lies and irrational theories from being taught. Honestly, I can’t think of a reason why government should be telling teachers what they should be discussing at all (just like telling mothers how to deal with their health) - other than ensuring that children be given the best opportunities in the real world.

We have a public school system, and you very much want that public school system regulated. You cannot ensure that students have opportunities without regulating education.

What you don't want is fucking lunatics in your legislature, saying things like "slavery good."

This is what happens when people have little choice in elections but to vote for the candidates they dislike the least.

Their candidates ran on exactly this. This was their campaign promise. Their voters got exactly what they wanted.

Government isn't broken. People are.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

How the hell does a school board even exist that could adopt this? This should never have passed in the first place.

Because Republicans aren't like Democrats when it comes to strategy (that is to say, awful). This is happening at school boards across the country. It's a concerted effort to pack these boards with Christian nationalist lunatics. And they've been quite successful so far, there hasn't been much push back until recently, but by now they already have a lot of control.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yes it is. You guys are due to overthrow it.