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[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 69 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

Of course this would happen, but yeah, he shouldn't have been stabbed in prison. I hope that's obvious to everyone.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 61 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we should reform our prison system so this kind of thing doesn't happen.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 52 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But if people don't suffer in prison how will you make them afraid of committing crimes? /s

[–] interceder270@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah... because nobody avoided committing a crime because they were afraid of going to prison. /s

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm confused by your /s. What point are you trying to make?

[–] interceder270@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

People avoid committing crimes because they are afraid of going to prison.

Lol. Crazy how these things need to be spelled out for you, but I guess that's where we are now 🤷

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

People avoid committing crimes because of their education and morals. If the only thing stopping you from murdering someone is fear of prison you're a psychopath. Most people are not like you and they don't want others to suffer. Most criminals commit crimes because of lack of education and opportunities. They don't care about going to prison because they have nothing outside of it they will lose like a good job or house. Europeans know that and focus on reeducation i.e. giving opportunities to people that commit crimes so that they don't do it again. Americans also know that isolating criminals from society is not punishment enough so they try to add as much suffering to it as possible. When people suffer in prisons they feel justice was truly served. It's just one of many examples of how primitive American society is.

[–] interceder270@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Okay you got me!

People don't avoid committing crimes because they're afraid of going to prison. I was so wrong. Thank you for enlightening me.

We should never punish criminals. We should only 'rehabilitate' them in the most comfortable manner possible. Everyone can be 'rehabilitated' and nobody I mean nobody is going to take advantage of lax punishments to commit more crimes!

You're so wise and definitely not being taken advantage of.

If the only thing stopping you from murdering someone is fear of prison you’re a psychopath.

What about robbery? Lol.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 1 points 9 months ago

Lol. I guess you never heard about 'life in prison'. Let me explain: it's a special form of punishment for people judged 'unrehabilitatable'. In Europe. if it's decided that someone is a psychopath he's locked up in prison forever. That way he cannot commit more crimes! Problem solved! And we don't have to torture them to feel better. Such genius!

We should never punish criminals.

LoL. Just wait till you learn about other forms of punishment we have like fines or social work. We can punish people without locking them up! How amazing is that? And also we do have prisons, that's where the reeducation happens. Weird you didn't realize that.

lax punishments

L.O.L Just because people are reeducated in prisons doesn't mean the punishments are lax. The fact that you consider any punishment that is not torture 'lax' just further proves all my points.

Seriously, you sound like a child that knows 10% of justice system and thinks he understands all of it. Or rather like typical American.

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That’s called Rational Choice Theory and it’s been disproven a bunch already. People dont think about consequences (generally) before committing a crime.

[–] interceder270@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago
[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 45 points 9 months ago

It shouldn't have but I'm not going to cry about it.

[–] PowerGloveSoBad@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's one of those weird situational things. He definitely deserves to be in prison, and hard to argue against the stabbability, but when you do one at the same time as the other it seems wrong somehow

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Sentence is supposed to be the thing that judge throws at you, and that should be it. The story doesn't tell whether he was stabbed just for being who he is or whether he pissed somebody off. But it's easy to imagine it's the former in this case.

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 8 points 9 months ago

Should it have happened? No. Two wrongs don't make a right, and all that. Prison shouldn't be dangerous for inmates, no matter what they've done.

Am I upset to hear that the personification of "ACAB" got stabbed in prison? Also no.

[–] holdthecheese@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

In this thread: vicious assholes