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[–] SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (42 children)

It's absolutely necessary to kill cattle for meat in the dairy industry. It would not be financially viable otherwise, and small-scale farms that try to avoid this practice can't provide enough dairy to feed the human population if they're consuming dairy; and they still involve other unavoidable cruelties inherent in taking the milk designed for calves, separating them and selectively breeding cows to overproduce milk, docking and debudding them, etc etc.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It would not be financially viable otherwise, and small-scale farms that try to avoid this practice can't provide enough dairy to feed the human population

but if you disregard this arbitrary goal, then any particular dairy operation could, in fact, operate apart from the meat industry.

[–] SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (21 children)

It's not an arbitrary goal, because in order to provide dairy to everyone, these practices must happen (when we don't need to provide dairy to everyone). I guess I could clarify that rather than it being a necessary component of dairy production to kill calves and cattle, for example, it's a necessary component of dairy production on a scale to feed our planet, or even any significant human populations. For all intents and purposes as they apply to most people, and when considering the industry as a whole, these practices are necessary for dairy production, while dairy production itself isn't necessary.

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