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Putin is urging women to have as many as 8 children after so many Russians died in his war with Ukraine (www.businessinsider.com)

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Russian President Vladimir Putin is urging Russians to have more children. 
"Large families must become the norm," Putin said in a speech Tuesday. 
Russian birth rates are falling amid war in Ukraine and a deepening economic crisis.

Russian President Vladimir Putin is urging women to have as many as eight children as the number of dead Russian soldiers continues to rise in his war with Ukraine, worsening the country's population crisis.

Addressing the World Russian People's Council in Moscow on Tuesday, Putin said the country must return to a time when large families were the norm.

"Many of our grandmothers and great-grandmothers, had seven, eight, or even more children," Putin said.

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[-] Stamau123@lemmy.world 114 points 7 months ago

I wonder if women will start getting medals for babies, like soviet times? Another question, if these women are raising 8 kids, and all the men are dead in a sunflower field south of Avdivika, who the hell is supposed to be working in Russia for the next generation? Just banking on enslaving Ukraine to pay for the cost of enslaving Ukraine?

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 51 points 7 months ago

That’s probably what Russia was roughly planning to do, yeah.

[-] Stamau123@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago

This whole endeavor has been top to bottom stupid

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 27 points 7 months ago

From Russia’s end: absolutely.

But also from the NATO end - why in the ever loving fuck aren’t we just giving Ukraine enough to actually restore their borders? All the counterarguments effectively stem from deeply wrongheaded and dated geopolitical strategies that Kissinger would have not only loved, but in fact specifically made efforts to personally support.

[-] anlumo@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

I think winning is not the goal of the Western military, the goal is to reduce the amount of military equipment in Russia to a historic low. This can’t be accomplished by winning quickly.

[-] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

People need to understand the west aren't exactly acting in the name of moral good, but pragmatic egoism, instead. Just because helping Ukraine is good in this instance, doesn't mean governments do it for the same reasons for why most people think they should get help.

It's realpolitik, and human lives don't matter. As much as I despise that thought.

The west may be better, but it's still not good.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Currently, just like at any other time since they attacked, it's entirely up to Russia to decide how much equipment they will lose on the war. The speed of Ukraine defense won't impact the result.

[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 7 points 7 months ago

That’s an interesting possibility that I hadn’t considered.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 18 points 7 months ago

Well, don't forget that this was planned as a few day operation.

[-] Uglyhead@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

The ol’ Napoleon strategy.

I’ll just invade the Cossacks, this should only take a few days

…Oh Fuck…

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

Absolutely, and they pretty much have to commit to that plan at this point.
Before their losses started piling up the way they have been, I'd assumed his plan was to install a puppet government and "annex" useful provences into the ~~Soviet Union~~ Russian federation.
But with the population losses that require women to become livestock for the sake of the country, he's absolutely going to enslave able bodied workers in every region he's able to hold onto.

[-] DaDragon@kbin.social 22 points 7 months ago

They actually introduced pretty much that exact thing back in 2008, the Order of Parental Glory. Have more children to fuel the machine, please

[-] uis@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Wait, what? Interesting. I didn't know about its existance.

[-] radix@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

Narayana Murthy: People should be working 70 hours/week.

Vladimir Putin: Why so few?

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