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Conflict started way before the 7th, but tensions did escalate and it became known to the World due to it.
Wonder how the narrative will change due to the new findings that it was known one year before it happened.
Well, they also left off the incredibly tone deaf statements from the consul… in reference to the security guard and highest value being the sanctity of life; and how self immolation was done out of hate for Jews…
Do you have a source or what findings confirmed it was self immolation due to religious persecution?
Aside from Israel gov't sources, they tend to push for religious persecution at any chance they get, similar to AIPAC (Zionist, Foreign lobby group in the US).
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/protester-self-immolates-outside-israeli-consulate-atlanta-2023-12-01/
https://lemmy.world/post/9029514 was the original post with it. from that article:
I'm not saying that it was religious persecution- it was done in protest of the war in Gaza, and one almost never sets oneself on fire because you hate somebody else... like usually it's in extreme protest to violence... not something done out of hatred at all.
was just pointing out that the statement- the incredibly tone deaf statement- was dropped from the PBS article.
Thank you for taking the time to clarify!
It was my fault for misunderstanding your original statement!
Have a great day!
If ~~they~~ Jews want me to hate the Jews, then as someone with no problem with Jewish people, I guess the polite thing to do is to hate the Jews.
Edit: but apparently it’s not the Jews pushing this, but specifically Zionists. In which case the above conditional is rendered moot.
Maybe it's because I am a Jew, but I would say that the polite thing to do would be to tell them to fuck off with their bullshit claims of antisemitism.
For fuck's sake, no one sets themselves on fire in the name of bigotry.
I feel like any Jew who calls any of these sorts of actions, any anti Zionist protests, anti-Semitic, is at worst a fake Jew and at best a disappointment for Jews. Because how do you support zionists, this ethnic cleansing, after Jewish people had to go through the Holocaust? The amount of mental gymnastics you have to go through to not see the equivalence between this and what Nazi Germany did is insane.
edit: removed sentence to stick to point
I would suggest to restrain from hating groups, even if some act in a way you don't agree with.
Reminds me of what Yanis said:
Time stamp: 1:20:36
Can we Fix Capitalism? Yanis Varoufakis vs Gillian TettIntelligence Squared
https://youtu.be/Gv6130kSzEY?si=gMZvGTZ8HXYbAGRq&t=4836
Change Jews with any race/gender/something. I dare you.
You dare me… wow
See, I find it hard to explain politely how the context (comment I replied to) changed after I made my comment, and that without said context my comment looks completely different… because you’re such a fucking asshat.
Please don't.
They do want you to hate Jews, Zionism is fundamentally a project about promoting antisemitism around the world to force Jews to flee to Israel. You playing into that strategy is exactly what they want.
Well, if it’s zionists wanting me to hate all Jews, then I guess I’ll have to continue being neutral to Jews, and hating zionists.
Not that I really have the energy or concentration needed to hate something for more than the instant it triggers me.
I predict Bibi will be fired, North Gaza will be annexed, and hopefully both Likud and Hamas will be replaced by leadership more likely to agree on viable peace terms.
This may be their last chance to make peace because demographic shift in Israel is leading to more right-wing fundies in the country who don't want any peace or compromise at all.
I hope your predictions come to pass... This has been going on for far too long.
But I'm a kiwi, and its probably my privilege that I cannot fathom how two peoples (religions?) cannot coexist together peacefully. That just blows my mind, but we've never been invaded or really even had to go to war properly (we help a bit here and there, but I don't think there was ever a real requirement - I could be wrong here?)