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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

someone in their life that was adversely affected by the vaccine.

There are rare side effects. When someone brings it up, it's important to acknowledge it but qualify the risk. .0001% of heart problem or .1 % of death. Tell them it's like driving without a seat belt because of the 1 in a million chance you get in an accident where the seatbelt traps you. Meanwhile 77% of all people have been in an accident.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

0.1% chance of death is one in a thousand. That seems mighty high.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"The COVID-19 age-adjusted death rate for the age 65 and over population was 533.5 per 100,000 standard population."

"the death rate for COVID-19 among adults aged 85 and over (1,645.0 per 100,000)"

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db446.htm

Assuming the relative was somewhere between 65 and 85 puts it at around 1 in a thousand.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think I misunderstood. I thought you were stating that the vaccine caused one in a thousand to die.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was saying 1 in a thousand to die from COVID vs 1 in a million to have complications from the vaccine.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah I see. I completely misread it

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I don’t deny that there are potential side effects. However, when one person knows multiple people who have suffered some ill effect it’s obviously not about the science. By that same token I could apply my logic that I know zero people who have had any serious side effects.

I actually just suggest that they drive without seatbelts seeing as the odds of getting in a serious accident are so low in their daily life if they want to refuse the vaccine based on potential side effects. Hemming and hawing usually follows.