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[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Opinions, columns, and editorials are all traditional news formats where a known personality gives their take on current events. Basically you can't "fact check" someone's commentary because they're not reporting factual takes on current events, and you can't really objectively say "your analogy to this historical event is not analogous enough" for instance because there isn't really measures for these things. Nate Silver's argument against them is itself an opinion that can't be fact checked. "Fact checking" itself is also determined by the ideology you're choosing to determine facts by or even which specific facts are chosen to be highlighted in an article. What is and what ought isn't something that you can simply fact check.

[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The fact that it’s “traditional” is not a good reason to keep something around despite the negative consequences. The fact is, most news consumers do not know about the lower editorial standards of opinion articles, so opinion pieces have been a significant source of misinformation. This is how we get Jim Carey writing about climate skepticism in a major newspaper.

What’s so impossible about a fact-checked journalistic article entitled: “Should opinion pieces be eliminated?” Seems possible to me!

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think it's just a silly proposal that's hardly worth debating so I can see why it appeals to someone like Nate Silver. The notion that you could control misinformation by removing certain writing styles from circulation is incredibly stupid. Plus on social media everyone is an opinion writer now.

[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Calling it “silly” and “incredibly stupid” is not an argument. I’m not even sure how to respond to this.

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

You're wanting to restrict the styles of writing people can publish, it's totalitarian in an absurd way.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Moral ought from an is. Just because news sources have decided to put opinion pieces in doesn't mean that it is right that they did.