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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You had me at stop testing for cannabis.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I get what you're saying, but if you are, for instance, a heavy machinery operator, it is worth making sure you are not using substances that could potentially impair your judgment. Those people usually are tested for alcohol, which is why I find it acceptable.

[–] Aethr@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think the primary difference here is that Marijuana tests detect thc going back months and months while alcohol is a much shorter duration. When those people are tested for alcohol, is that to stop them from being actually drunk on the job or to actually forbid them from drinking at any point while they're employed?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

That is true and it is a problem. As I said to @aelwero, I wonder if there is a way to test whether or not you've used it recently enough to impair your ability to operate heavy machinery? I am a heavy user of cannabis myself because I use it to treat a nerve condition and I would never operate heavy machinery or drive a car while under the influence, but plenty of people are happy to drive a car while high, so I'm sure plenty of people will be happy to work that metal press while high. I don't know what the answer here is.

[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

A better test. Before the breathalyzer a suspected drunk would have to get a urine test at the police station, or a blood test in an ED. Whoever cracks the THC test will be rich.

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the UK police do a test that can tell if the THC in your blood is still active, it still over measures a bit but can tell the difference between someone smoking a bit the night before and having had one before work in the morning or in the lunch break.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I'm guessing that won't make it to the U.S. cops any time soon. Not when they have arrest quotas to make.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

I wonder if there is a way to test whether or not you’ve used it recently enough to impair your ability to operate heavy machinery?

Blood tests would be positive during any impairment and a few hours afterwards.

In order of how long it would take to pass a given test after use, it goes blood, saliva, sweat, urine, hair.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Most workplace testing does use swabs these days. I personally haven't seen any workplace testing for a decade tbh, but I'm sure it's still out there.

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They only test for alcohol after a reportable incident. Nobody cares if you drink on your own time. Source; I have been through OSHA 30 training. They do screen for MJ though, which is bullshit since it's legal in so many states now. IBEW, UA and a few other powerful trade unions are currently leaning on the feds to end the screening requirements in states where it's legal, so we may see real progress relatively sooner than people think, unless Trump wins.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

IBEW, UA and a few other powerful trade unions are currently leaning on the feds to end the screening requirements in states where it’s legal

That is really great to hear. Thanks. I truly wish them luck!