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[–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Israel" is committed to destroying Gaza and getting revenge by killing as many people as possible. Hamas doesn't want that, and Hamas has the hostages. So simply: want to destroy Gaza? Your hostages will go down with it.

[–] i3c8XHV@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Israel is committed to destroying the army of Hamas, and to prevent it from ruling Gaza. It is not committed to destroying Gaza.

Hamas could end the war any minute. Pressuring Israel to let Hamas survive instead of pressuring Hamas to surrender and return the hostages is being pro-Hamas, not pro Palestinian.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It is not committed to destroying Gaza.

Then why did they destroy Gaza worse than the allies destroyed WWII Germany?

[–] i3c8XHV@aussie.zone 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think it is quite obvious: to destroy the Hamas infrastructure and to kill as many Hamas militants as possible, while minimising Israeli casualties.

If you have a better suggestion for how to destroy Hamas' ability to continue to attack Israel I'm sure they would love to hear it.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago

Probably peace, but Netanyahu has been running on not doing that for decades.

[–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Pressuring Israel to let Hamas survive instead of pressuring Hamas to surrender and return the hostages is being pro-Hamas, not pro Palestinian.

"Not wanting the murderous government that is actively finding ways to kill and displace Palestinians in places that it controls to take control of Gaza is being pro-Hamas"

Hamas are the extremists of the Palestinians, the IDF and "Israeli" government are the extremists of the "Israeli" people. Why would I want the IDF to take control of Gaza?

[–] i3c8XHV@aussie.zone 1 points 9 months ago

Hamas surrender would PREVENT Israel from occupying Gaza. If Hamas wouldn't have taken the hostages in the first place Israel wouldn't have attacked Gaza.

Is the current Hamas strategy working for the Gazans civilians?

So yes, if you want to support Gazans civilians, and prevent Israel from occupying Gaza, you should push Hamas to surrender and return the hostages.