Those poor people.
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I'm not sure if Hamas has noticed but they're not exactly winning this war.
At this point they're obviously just trying to get as many Palestinians killed as possible for propaganda.
The poor Palestinians have a government that's actively trying to get them killed.
If Hamas cared even an iota for their people they'd surrender and end the war.
If Hamas cared even an iota for their people they’d surrender and end the war.
Have you seen what happened to parts of Gaza occupied by the IDF?
This community has a large pro-hamas faction. Youve just pissed them off.
I don't really understand their position. Surely the option that leads to least Palestinian deaths would be something they want? It's honestly just weird.
Some of you Palestinians may die, but it's a sacrifice Hamas is willing to make
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I'm starting to think it's just people being as edgy and contrarian as possible.
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That user is probably one of the biggest sources of Israeli disinformation on this site. Everyone is just tired of their shit.
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Dumb plan, Hamas. Israel will just bomb you to shits in record time...
Edit: y'all don't get it. This gives Israel an excuse for total war. You ain't seen nothing yet.
That's what Israel is doing, has been doing, and would continue to do whether the hostages are returned or not.
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Like they've already been doing the whole time?
I mean, its not like they weren’t bombing the shit out of gaza in the first place, killing hundreds every day. I’d be surprised if Israel could bomb gaza any harder than they already are.
"Israel" is committed to destroying Gaza and getting revenge by killing as many people as possible. Hamas doesn't want that, and Hamas has the hostages. So simply: want to destroy Gaza? Your hostages will go down with it.
Israel is committed to destroying the army of Hamas, and to prevent it from ruling Gaza. It is not committed to destroying Gaza.
Hamas could end the war any minute. Pressuring Israel to let Hamas survive instead of pressuring Hamas to surrender and return the hostages is being pro-Hamas, not pro Palestinian.
It is not committed to destroying Gaza.
Then why did they destroy Gaza worse than the allies destroyed WWII Germany?
I think it is quite obvious: to destroy the Hamas infrastructure and to kill as many Hamas militants as possible, while minimising Israeli casualties.
If you have a better suggestion for how to destroy Hamas' ability to continue to attack Israel I'm sure they would love to hear it.
Probably peace, but Netanyahu has been running on not doing that for decades.
Pressuring Israel to let Hamas survive instead of pressuring Hamas to surrender and return the hostages is being pro-Hamas, not pro Palestinian.
"Not wanting the murderous government that is actively finding ways to kill and displace Palestinians in places that it controls to take control of Gaza is being pro-Hamas"
Hamas are the extremists of the Palestinians, the IDF and "Israeli" government are the extremists of the "Israeli" people. Why would I want the IDF to take control of Gaza?
Hamas surrender would PREVENT Israel from occupying Gaza. If Hamas wouldn't have taken the hostages in the first place Israel wouldn't have attacked Gaza.
Is the current Hamas strategy working for the Gazans civilians?
So yes, if you want to support Gazans civilians, and prevent Israel from occupying Gaza, you should push Hamas to surrender and return the hostages.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Hamas, the group which controls the Gaza Strip, has ruled out any more hostage releases until Israel agrees to a "full cessation of aggression".
Fighting continues in Gaza, with Israel bombarding the north and south of the territory and Hamas firing rockets at Tel Aviv.
Among the Palestinians reported killed were the director of the police station in the southern city of Khan Younis and a daughter of the head of the Gaza health ministry.
The week-long truce this month brought an increased flow of aid into Gaza, where the UN has warned that the population is at risk of famine if the war between Israel and Hamas continues.
In a statement, Hamas said: "There is a Palestinian national decision that there should be no talk about prisoners or exchange deals except after a full cessation of aggression."
Early on Friday, the territory's Hamas-run health ministry put the overall death toll there since 7 October at 20,057, including at least 8,000 children and 6,200 women.
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Fighting continues in Gaza, with Israel bombarding the north and south of the territory
So everywhere
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Israel can't defeat Hamas without catching them in a lethal, collaterally damaging strike on Qatar. The Holocaust of Gaza will continue until morale improves.
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