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The text in the german flag area translates to
You can swear on the internet. Violence? Gore? No problem!
A bad word? Son of a removed, we're all going to die.
Edit: Wtf, there is a swear filter? Fuck.
What pearl clutching son of a bitch at lemmy.ml decided its users were too fragile to hear the word "bitch"? And here's the real question, can you read ot or does it censor mine? Because if you can read it then what's the point of censoring your own users?
Edit: yeah Kbin lets you say it.
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If the swear is posted on kbin, and viewed on kbin, it is not censored. Which is why I can view 'bitch' when posted by kbin folks. And I assume they can read mine.
Nobody can read it, check the source of your comment. The word gets immediately replaced when you post. I'd like to know what words are forbidden, is there a list somewhere?
Just to test how the filter behaves: Bi.tch.
Correction: No one browsing through your specific server can read it. The rest of us see it just fine.
From where I'm sitting, it seems like the filter is applied (a) when a lemmy.ml user makes a post (it strips it from the source and says removed for everyone) and (b) when lemmy.ml federates another instance's comment over (source instance and any other non-censored federated instance has the word intact, ONLY you guys don't see it).
Come see!
I can read every swear in this thread except the root post.
The filter is a text matching regex, and not terribly verbose. Very easy to circumvent
That’s how the Fediverse works. That word is constantly used in inflammatory comments. Don’t like the rules, then leave.
No, it's not how "the Fediverse works" it's how lemmy.ml works.
I meant how the fediverse works as in each instance can have its own rules and if you don’t like the rules you find a different instance.
Or stay and rightfully criticize the instances that use words filters.
Here's a wild idea: word filters are the most brain-dead way to deal with a problem. They don't understand context -- you can't even use a "bad word" so people understand what you're denouncing. You can't share your experience with being called a removed.
They're also easily bypassed with odd spellings by people that are going to use a "no no word" to be assholes.
It’s the clbuttic mistake
It works based on instance.
Time to switch to a different instance you fucking fuck face!
Interesting. You can say fuck but son of a bitch is censored… what about son of a fuck?
Might be it doesn't filter edits
Oh yeah hadn’t thought of that
Funny, fuck isn't censored but bitch is
It's "whore", not "bitch."
Time to switch to a different instance you fucking fuck face!
Kyle's mom's a bitch...
looks like tankies love censorship, who would have guessed
Hmm. Testing to see: removed.
That's crazy, it even blocks my ex wife's name.
Ladies and/or gentlemen, this is a historic moment: the second coming of hunter2.
What's "*******"?
u/spez is a son of bïtch
Is b word not allowed on lemmy.ml?
slurs in general are not allowed on lemmy.ml
Das glaub ich nicht Hurensohn
Changing it to "removed" instead just drives the euphemism treadmill faster, people will find ways to say the same without those specific words. Whether something is a slur is also very context-dependent. Something computers as of yet aren't well equipped to handle.
Iirc, lemmy.ml is a specifically leftist instance, right? They may have banned the word because of its sexist nature. A bit like allowing fuck, but not allowing the other f word that generally applies to gay men. Swearing isn't the issue, slurs or derogatory terms are.
Small test: Dio porco Cunt Vaffanculo Hurensohn Dickhead
It isn't allowed, but I don't think my instance bans bitch
Yeah it's censored :/
Well how am I supposed to reference a female dog then?
I would say /u/spez, but that seems mean to the dog.
A heccin' G O O D G I R L E, obviously.
Just fyi, i used the w word because it is the most accurate translation. Hurensohn means Sohn einer Hure, Son einer Hure, Son of a Hure, Son of a removed
A lot of translations of "Spez ist ein hurensohn" translates to "Spez is a son on of a bitch" -- although "hurensohn" is more literally "whore's son"
Edit: Seems like it's just your instance (lemmy.ml)
For anyone who wants to swear in german, just say
But fast
I'd say ran is a bit closer than rain, but either way, that's still very English German.
male descendant of a prostitute.
"Offspring of a harlot"
No, it translate to “son of a prostitute”.
What a joke is this the US? For europeans these swear words are fine. u/spez ist ein HÜR3ns0hn