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Time to use something better boys
I tried. I finally wanted to switch away from Windows and installed mint. Spent about 3 hours trying to get my headphone jacks to work with some mildly obscure tools and commands but no dice. Then I managed to destroy one of my partitions by trying to Mount it but it gave me an obscure error. Searched the forums and found NTFS fix, well turns out I accidentally had turned the partition dynamic when moving it to a larger drive. NTFS fix didn't like that and promptly destroyed the file table. I lost a buch of data. So back to the cruddy Windows then...I'm not tech savvy enough, which is sad.
If you've never, ever used Linux before and are not confident about its tools, it's almost always better to use a fresh machine. NTFS and Linux really don't mix well, for example.
Haha, yeah, as I've learned. I'll try again when I build a new machine. I really like the overall look and feel of Mint.
It's been a few years since I used Mint, but I enjoyed it. Most of the Debian-based distros are very similar, actually. All are decent for beginners. If not Mint, Pop is another good option.
Also Zorin
I installed Zorin on my wife's (=no prior Linux experience) laptop something like 2 years ago. Considering the fact that she still uses it almost daily, I'd say you're right.
Personally, I dislike some of the custom stuff it has over the more standard desktop environments, but I do think it's great for usability in that it feels Windows-adjacent.
Just boot it off a thumb drive and take it for a test drive.
Use Ventoy if you want to test multiple distros.
I did that prior and decided I like it, so I did a proper install. I just didn't try the sound jacks and didn't notice one of my drives not mounting.
Well, valve plans on bringing steam deck os to desktop eventually.
Backups before doing anything else with partitions (or OS in general)
Yes, all the important stuff was backed up naturally. Still lost some, I'd say "nostalgic old files" It just happens when you have large drives you can't just back it up without paying lots.
mint will be stuck on xorg for the foreseeable future.
if you want something with similar workflow to windows, KDE distros are pretty good nowadays.
Mint will use xorg as the default session until 2026, where it is projected that wayland will solve most if not all of its showstoppers.
Mint's cinnamon DE is built off of Mutter, GNOME's compositor, so all it means is that Mint will be doing the same thing that it has always done, been what GNOME could have been if it hadn't reinvented itself.
Mint is a workflow extremely similar to what most users have experienced on Windows and specifically caters to Windows users or users coming from proprietary operating systems.
2026 is a hell of a wait though considering new drivers and software will start targeting wayland in that time.
It is, but Mint has always prided itself on adopting new technology late once all the dust has settled. Besides, it's just for Wayland being the default (and most likely deprecating the X11 session), a usable wayland session for cinnamon will most likely be available come 2025.
There's always POP!_OS going in hot with their COSMIC compositor, so people who want to adopt wayland can do so when POP!_OS does and still have that "Ubuntu(TM) experience minus Canonical" distro.
If you want to see a hell of a wait, you should check out RHEL's deprecation timeline.
Why does it matter? What user really cares if it's Wayland or x11? Software is about solving problems for the user. Mint is far superior to Windows.
Sent from KDE with x11...
because its unmantained and will not get new features anymore, i dont expect new software and hardware to support it going forward.
sent from gnome and x11!
It doesn't need new features and I'm pretty sure any bugs, vulnerabilities will still get ironed out. We both know Wayland will kill x11. The point is, considering we are both using x11, why should a new person from Windows need it now?
In a few years, my position would be different, but for now, mileage varies and many face use cases it doesn't yet cover. X11 is mature and mostly just works.
Depends on their hardware. I use 4 monitors at:
It works better on Wayland. Other users could be in a similar situation.
iirc, you can't use FreeSync with multi monitors on Xorg as well
To me mint was always the closest to what I wanted as a Windows user. I still user windows most of the time now but whenever I use Linux, it's mint.
Zorin is another good one
been meaning to try this one
how stable is it?
I find it stable but admit I use macOS and Windows as daily drivers still
My last attempt to get games working on Linux did not go well, but I am hopeful the kinks will be sorted out by the time Win10 starts getting dropped.
I game exclusively on Linux these days. I haven’t had an issue that I couldn’t solve so far aside from shitty anti cheat software that doesn’t play nice.
I play single player almost exclusively, so that isn’t much of a problem for me.
I think my hardware might have had something to do with it, was trying on a somewhat older laptop. Most games would not launch even with Proton and even most Linux native games did not work even after a fair bit of troubleshooting. I get that some people might not have problems but I believe problems still remain widespread.
Oh yeah, definitely.
Still, I think you should try with better hardware when you can.
Any differences will not be significant.
Get a Steam deck. Holy hell I love mine.
I'd rather not have to upgrade hardware that can run the games I want to play perfectly fine, hoping for improved support (or at the very least a straightforward way to tell specifically what the problem is). Though once Win10 ends it's not like there's going to be an alternative to Linux anyway since Win11 has strict requirements for new stuff.
What are the specs of your machine?
It is a ThinkPad E15 (the one I was trying at least)