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Two explosions at Kerman ceremony marking anniversary of killing of Qassem Suleimani raise Middle East tensions further

More than 95 Iranians were killed and scores more injured in a terrorist attack at a ceremony in Iran to commemorate the assassination of a top general, further heightening tensions in the increasingly volatile Middle East.

The explosions came at a memorial ceremony in Iran marking the fourth anniversary of the killing of Qassem Suleimani, the head of Iran’s al-Quds force, and it was not clear whether either of Suleimani’s principal regional adversaries – Israel or Islamic State – were responsible for the carnage.

Iran’s new minister of interior, the hardliner Ahmad Vahidi, did not immediately attribute blame for the attack and no side claimed responsibility for the deadliest single terrorist incident since the Iranian Revolution in 1979. The US state department said it had no reason to believe Israel was involved.

An early death toll of 103 was revised down, but Iran’s health minister, Bahram Einollahi, said many of the wounded were in critical condition and the toll could rise.

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago

It's fucked up the most likely reason is Israel is trying to draw other countries into their war so they have an excuse to call in their allies...

This shit might really start WW3, and it's all going to be because the western world supported a far right ethnostate regardless of the evil they commit.

Give someone like that a blank check on rationalizing and literal billions in aid a year and this has always been inevitable.

Especially since the next president is Biden or trump. Neither one will even try to reign in Netanyahu

[-] DeadHorseX@lemmy.world 51 points 6 months ago

There’s no evidence this was Israel. Iran has plenty of enemies in the Middle East.

[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Correct, there's no evidence. However it's not like anyone would be surprised to find out the Israelis were responsible, they've committed similar acts previously.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN2AB0EQ/

[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago

That's not a similar act at all. Assassinating one of the leaders of Iran's nuclear weapons program isn't like blowing up a bunch of random people at a march.

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[-] kbotc@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I’d like to point out that ISIL took responsibility.

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[-] steventhedev@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

I'm going to go a step further and say that the vast majority of Israelis would not agree to attacking civilians in general, and certainly not like this. This is a pretty clear attempt to "poke the bear" which is never a good idea. Even the most hawkish Israelis wouldn't want to preemptively open another front in an already complex war.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago

Lol if that were the case, Netanyahu would have been gone a decade ago.

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

The vast majority of Israelis support the expansion of Israel which kills civiliansalso the vast majority of Israel doesn't run Israel so it doesn't matter.

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[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Iran is also a far-right ethnostate.

A far-right ethnostate that murder, rapes, and terrorises women, children, and men for “morality”.

A far-right ethnostate that tried to draw Yemen and Lebanon into the war by launching proxy attacks.

For those who actually oppose far-right ethnostate, let’s make sure we oppose all of them.

[-] AreaSIX@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

Iran is a multi-ethnic society. What ethnicity is the ethno-state you imagine centered on? Persians? You know that General Soleimani wasn't a Persian? Or that Iran's supreme leader is an Azeri Turk? Or that the merchant class of Iran is not centered on Persians? How is this an ethno-state? Zionists sure like projection it seems....

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

He clearly just meant "theocracy" which it is and makes no apologies about.

Iran is an illiberal hellhole

[-] stmcld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

A Theocracy and an Ethnostate are two different things. If he meant theocracy he would have used the word theocracy, but he didn't. He used the word ethnostate

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I agree. I'm big on specificity of language.

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

An ethnostate how? There are plenty of Kurds, Afghans, Azeris and others.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago

Between Biden and Netanyahu isn't all that rosy: https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/12/politics/biden-israel-losing-support-netanyahu/index.html

And it didn't start just after the terrorist attack, and it isn't just Biden, remember that Bibi went all in for trump.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Between Biden and Netanyahu isn’t all that rosy

It is.

You're taking that comment to mean Biden thinks they've gone to far with the genocide.

“We’ll continue to provide military assistance to Israel until they get rid of Hamas, but we have to be careful – they have to be careful,” Biden said. “The whole world’s public opinion can shift overnight, we can’t let that happen.”

Biden means the same thing he's literally been saying for 50 years.

That hell support Israel no matter what, but Israel not paying attention to optics means that governments may face pressure from voters to stop supporting them.

Biden doesn't think current events cross that line, but he's worried they're not doing enough propaganda.

The only criticism he's made of Israel in 50 years of supporting them, is that they need to worry about public perception.

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[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago

Lots of big claims but no evidence. It's almost as if you're intentionally inviting a certain narrative...

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