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[-] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 281 points 5 months ago

What timeline is this again? Psychics are on news channels now? Not mention one with an extremely large user base that would have this go against their theology? I can’t even.

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 139 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

As proven long ago, Fox News is not news, it's all editorials. Every last person on the air is a pundit, there are no reporters. They don't report the news, they report their opinions on the news. That's why they have a "psychic" on one of their shows, to provide an opinion on what's going to happen. It's all just for show...

[-] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 89 points 5 months ago

Those of us who remember Reaganomics also remember he used a psychic his entire EIGHT year presidency. SMH.

[-] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

Ugh that’s a gross reminder but a good point as well.

[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 16 points 5 months ago

Are you thinking of his astrologer Joan Quigley? Not really any better, but not a psychic.

[-] A7thStone@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You say Grenada, I say Grenada. Let's call the whole thing off.

Lmao holy fuck how did I not know this? That’s wild.

[-] Icalasari@kbin.social 38 points 5 months ago

Mysticism such as using psychics is also something oddly embedded with Nazis. Like, even back during their rise they were oddly into mysticism

[-] HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 5 months ago

The Nazis had teams of archaeologists running around the world looking for all sorts of religious artifacts. Hitler was a nut on the subject. He was crazy. He was obsessed with the occult.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Did you hear what happened when they found the Ark of the Covenant?

[-] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I heard about this one archaeologist who was tangentially involved with the whole thing, but his involvement didn't change anything at all with how the events played out.

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[-] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

I know, I know. Doesn’t make it any less frustrating.

[-] ericisshort@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Their reply completely ignores your point about psychics contradicting Christian beliefs, and it’s absolutely shocking that Faux News watchers even tolerate it, let alone enjoy it.

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Psychics contradict some Christians beliefs, not all. Many believe in psychics. It's the more strict sects like Pentecostals or Southern Baptists that believe all psychics are evil. Oddly enough I agree with them, but for different reasons.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 4 points 5 months ago

Yeah, you'd think that, but...

You can claim "No True Christian", but clearly not all Christians believe cartomancy is forbidden. Christianity, as always, is whatever the individual believes it to be.

[-] ericisshort@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Hard disagree. The Bible has verses that condemn psychics and mediums, not that that has ever stopped them from rationalizing other acts, but the Bible is anti-psychic.

When I was a Methodist, my churches were all adamant that psychics and mediums were either con artists or were coordinating with evil spirits or the devil, and it was forbidden. Same with Catholics. Generally in my experience with all American Southern Christians and some northern ones too, the more devout they are, the more against the occult they are.

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[-] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago

That's an understatement. It's clearly against the catechism of the Catholic church. https://www.catholic.com/qa/why-mediums-and-psychics-are-not-ok

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social -3 points 5 months ago

That's Catholics, which some sects like the Pentecostals consider to be not Christians. And then you have people like this...

[-] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago

You can find anyone claiming anything, but the official doctrine of the world-wide largest and USA-wide second largest Christian denomination is a bit more likely to be relevant to the discussion than some random bizarre book.

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social -1 points 5 months ago

The fact remains that they still believe psychics are real, they just disagree on whether they are all evil.

[-] weew@lemmy.ca 45 points 5 months ago

is fox news considered a news channel now?

[-] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 5 months ago

It shouldn't be, but I do see it on TVs in public more often than any other news I think which is concerning

[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 3 points 5 months ago

Everytime I see it on at the gym I want to tell them to shut that shit off, but I'm always afraid I'll start an argument with some boomer who will say they were watching that lol

[-] Seasoned_Greetings@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago

News used to be 60 minutes just after prime time. Now they have whole channels with news 24/7/365. Have to fill all that air time with something

[-] sheogorath@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

24 hour news is a blight. TBH 24 hours everything except for emergencies and medical services is a blight.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

There’s plenty of interesting stuff going on in the world. Reporting on it doesn’t maximize profit.

CNN used to have shows about fashion, sports, entertainment, the arts, world affairs. They figured out that just having talking heads blab and argue with each other was cheaper.

CNN headline news used to be just a 30 minute broadcast about the day’s major headlines repeated on a loop every half hour. They didn’t really fill the entire 24 hours with different stories all day long.

Similarly ESPN used to show sports of all kinds. Rugby, Soccer, bowling, snooker/billiards. Again, it’s just taking heads now.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Similarly ESPN used to show sports of all kinds. Rugby, Soccer, bowling, snooker/billiards.

Yeah, although usually only kind of late. I do miss the World's Strongest Man competitions though.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

My dad was not right-wing, but he went from us watching The McNeil-Lehrer Newshour once a day in the 80s to being glued to CNN and MSNBC all day. Almost literally all day once he retired. They found an American addiction and learned to feed it. For my dad, and I think a lot of people, it was a combination of the first Iraq war and the OJ live chase. Suddenly you could watch something really amazing that was news in real time whenever you turned on your TV.

[-] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Well I want to see a faith healer on Meet the Press. Maybe a magician on Newsmax too then.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

"now" has been longer than I have been alive.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You should watch the movie “Network” from the 1970s sometime. It predicted the trash that is news programming these days.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0074958/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_network

[-] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

I absolutely love Network and agree. Essential watching and predictions way before it’s time.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

It wasn't meant to be a prediction though. It was meant to be incredibly broad satire. I mean the last line of the movie is- "This was the story of Howard Beale: The first known instance of a man who was killed because he had lousy ratings."

And honestly, if Fox could have just taken Tucker out with a .22 to the back of the head, they would have totally done that.

We're living in a comedy.

[-] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago

Yeah it's the same as 1984 and so many others, it's about the human condition and natural propensites.

The truth is things haven't really got much worse, I happen to enjoy Victorian newspapers and it's all the same nonsence and lies. People will always find a new way to lie and a new excuse to pretend to believe.

[-] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 23 points 5 months ago

Isn't it technically 'light entertainment' or some shit so legally it's not obliged to report any facts?

[-] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 5 months ago

They defended a slander lawsuit that was against Tucker Carlson. They suggested that no reasonable viewer would take what he said as fact. Seems pretty damning.

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

It’s like the Colbert Report, but for racists, and 24/7 on a channel.

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Colbert doesn't just pull shit out of his ass though, AND he makes the news funny.

Fox just makes up whatever inflammatory bullshit will get their base riled up the most. They don't want them laughing, they want them irate and terrified with a Bible in one hand and a gun in the other, glued to the TV until they tell them it's time to act again.

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

True. I miss the Colbert report.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I do and I don't. It was very funny, but his current honest commentary is much more insightful. I almost wish we had two different Colberts.

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

True. I miss the Colbert report.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Psychics are on news channels now?

Its on Fox "News", not a real news channel. You shouldn't be surprised that woowoo bunk is being put on the channel that's been spreading objectively falsifiable bunk for as long as they've been on air.

[-] Thteven@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

I turned on the news the other day and was lucky enough to catch the 10 minute segment on the new fucking kia the local dealership just got in stock.

[-] Squorlple@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

“News” is the wrong word. “Dogma” is a better choice.

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 months ago

It's almost like reich-wingers are idiots and will fall for the dumbest fucking thing

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago

It's not a news channel, legally speaking

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