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[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 52 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's why they have an overly broad definition of what is prohibited. So they can pick and choose what they will allow.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 72 points 10 months ago (4 children)

In this case I think the district is doing this in protest. The legislators intended to pick and choose, but the district is applying it as written, so Dictionaries are out. They're highlighting how absurd the law is.

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

That was my impression, similar move to schools banning the Bible citing all the beastiality, rape and mass murder in there

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Eh, I think this is going to play into the legislator's designs.

[–] rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

My thoughts as well. This leads to "only approved books allowed."

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's literally and explicitly the point.

From the end of the article:

In a brief submitted by the State of Florida in support of Escambia, Attorney General Ashley Moody argued that the school board could ban books for any reason because the purpose of public school libraries is to "convey the government’s message," and that can be accomplished through "the removal of speech that the government disapproves."

[–] rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I agree with both you and HikingVet@lemmy.ca but somehow interpreted that sentence differently. Thanks for helping see it! Not great either way I guess, tho 🙁

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I didn't post to disagree with you, just to drive home how damn ridiculous this AG is. Sure, the law is effed, but this guy is right out of 1984.

[–] rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Ya, very true. It's so bad.

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Welcome to 1984

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Which is the whole point of the law.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 5 points 10 months ago

Perhaps, but...

Penguin Random House, five authors, two parents of Escambia County students, and the non-profit group PEN America sued the Escambia County School Board last May, alleging that the board's actions violate the First Amendment. The lawsuit relates to decisions by the school board, prior to the passage of HB 1069, to permanently ban several books from Escambia schools.

The Escambia County School Board banned most of these books at the request of Vicki Baggett, a high school English teacher in the county. Baggett is responsible for hundreds of challenges in Escambia County and neighboring counties. She also appeared at the June 2023 board meeting and spoke in favor of the emergency rule.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Pretty bad way to protest by making your students dumber... If they want to protest, they could ban the Bible and I'm sure countless other Christian-themed books that happen to be just fine.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They did ban the Bible, that was one of the thousands of books they removed. Ultimately the school administrators have limited power in this case. They're state employees, they have to follow the law. They're providing the ones who have the actual power here, the voters, with as much ammo as they can which is bad optics. They're doing their best to make the politicians look like incompetent morons.

The politicians crafted this legislation to be super vague in order to let them pick and choose arbitrarily if a book violated it because they didn't want their actual opinions on record. They had wanted this to be applied to a couple dozen existing books and then to have veto power on any new book to be added. Instead the administrators are using malicious compliance to apply it to literally any book that even remotely matches the vague wording. This does two things, first it highlights how completely arbitrary this law is, and second it bogs the censorship board down by burying them in work.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They have already stated they want "their people" to be the deciders. It’s just textbook fascism.

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago

Without the textbook.