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[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I hope she loses.

No one should “own” words or concepts.

[–] Default@aussie.zone 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't think authors should get paid?

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think anyone should get paid.

[–] sirdorius@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's ideologically cool and all, but in today's reality megacorps will be getting paid for the labor of others which get nothing in return and will further accelerate the divide of wealth.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, nah.

We need to weaken these copyright and ownership notions one fight at a time.

You won’t get to tomorrow if you settle for today.

[–] sirdorius@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh so settling for giant corporations using AI to plagiarize other's work without liability is getting us to a better tomorrow? Interesting

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Accepting that we don’t own words or concepts is.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh sure I bet the corporations will get right on giving up their ip so that they're on the same page as the rest of us.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 1 year ago

They will never give up anything, we’ll have to take it back.

[–] LexiconDexicon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Copyright protection helps "the little guy" make a living to begin with

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And it helps the big guy own everything our culture has produced.

We’re not even entitled to use the culture of our age freely because it’s all held by a handful of companies.

[–] LexiconDexicon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you hate the "Big Guy" but you also hate independent workers like Sarah for wanting to protect their IP? You're making no sense here and just contradicting yourself between posts

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 3 points 1 year ago

It’s pretty simple, I hate IP in any form.

Ok, let’s start with you then.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So why are you ok with openai being paid for taking work from other people that you don’t think should be paid? If she loses, then that’s the situation.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So change the system that lets them be paid for, don’t paywall human culture and let that system continue.

You’re picking the wrong target here.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The system exists. We all have to live with it. Or change it, but this case won’t do that and you’re effectively siding with big tech over authors.

[–] mrmanager 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Then why are we banned from using certain words on social media?

[–] jgardner10@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just because you can freely say something doesn’t mean I have to forced to listen to it.

[–] mrmanager 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And that means that the words cannot be used, which means they are not owned by you. If you could use them, you would own them right?

[–] Cail@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

But the words can be used, just not in that specific space. If you're not allowed to bring a gun to a restaurant it doesn't mean the restaurant suddenly owns the bullets.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 7 points 1 year ago

That's a completely unrelated topic.

You're talking about censorship, I'm talking about ownership.