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[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I hope she loses.

No one should “own” words or concepts.

[–] Default@aussie.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You don't think authors should get paid?

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't think anyone should get paid.

[–] sirdorius@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's ideologically cool and all, but in today's reality megacorps will be getting paid for the labor of others which get nothing in return and will further accelerate the divide of wealth.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah, nah.

We need to weaken these copyright and ownership notions one fight at a time.

You won’t get to tomorrow if you settle for today.

[–] sirdorius@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh so settling for giant corporations using AI to plagiarize other's work without liability is getting us to a better tomorrow? Interesting

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Accepting that we don’t own words or concepts is.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh sure I bet the corporations will get right on giving up their ip so that they're on the same page as the rest of us.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 2 years ago

They will never give up anything, we’ll have to take it back.

[–] LexiconDexicon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Copyright protection helps "the little guy" make a living to begin with

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And it helps the big guy own everything our culture has produced.

We’re not even entitled to use the culture of our age freely because it’s all held by a handful of companies.

[–] LexiconDexicon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So you hate the "Big Guy" but you also hate independent workers like Sarah for wanting to protect their IP? You're making no sense here and just contradicting yourself between posts

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 3 points 2 years ago

It’s pretty simple, I hate IP in any form.

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Ok, let’s start with you then.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So why are you ok with openai being paid for taking work from other people that you don’t think should be paid? If she loses, then that’s the situation.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

So change the system that lets them be paid for, don’t paywall human culture and let that system continue.

You’re picking the wrong target here.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

The system exists. We all have to live with it. Or change it, but this case won’t do that and you’re effectively siding with big tech over authors.

[–] mrmanager 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Then why are we banned from using certain words on social media?

[–] jgardner10@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just because you can freely say something doesn’t mean I have to forced to listen to it.

[–] mrmanager 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And that means that the words cannot be used, which means they are not owned by you. If you could use them, you would own them right?

[–] Cail@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

But the words can be used, just not in that specific space. If you're not allowed to bring a gun to a restaurant it doesn't mean the restaurant suddenly owns the bullets.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 7 points 2 years ago

That's a completely unrelated topic.

You're talking about censorship, I'm talking about ownership.