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The beginning of civilization
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this post was submitted on 14 Jan 2024
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This is a load of shit. Why it has up votes blows my mind.
Do some reading or watching of hunter gatherer societies and you'll see lots of group survival activities. Teamwork in hunts, in preserving food, in crafting tools, and making shelter.
If we were this self-centered, we wouldn't have such advanced communication, which is how we were able to do all those group activities.
Survival of the fittest is survival of those that cooperate.
Because it's funny? Honestly why your comment is so highly upvoted is blowing my mind, although I mean you no ill-will by that.
Its part of the lemmy meta-game at this point is to take a joke super seriously and go on a psudo-intellectual rant about how the contents of the joke are the sum of everything wrong with humanity. Everyone needs their 5 minutes on the high horse
Hahah the whole idea of there being a meta for a discussion website (which there totally is lmao) is so fucking funny to me
It's not even funny. It's just stupid.
I guess me stupid for laughing
Something something humour subjective. I don't like it but it seems clearly made to be funny.
Ironically, both can be right, upvote wise.
It's a comic strip, nobody is looking for historical accuracy here. The interaction is funny, that's it.
I agree, this is a load of shit. How do we know cavemen communicate in "good enough English" for us to understand?
And the dude on the left is just so clean shaven. Honestly I can't believe everyone's falling for this
It's a comic about cavemen. It can be entertaining and interesting without being a complete representation of early human society. That said afaik there is evidence people in prehistory killed each other a lot.
So let me get this straight your angry that this comic about cave men learning that being selfish doesn't work. Has people that don't understand that being selfish doesn't work.
I kind of read it more as the cavemen slowly coming to realize that they are both better off with mutual co-operation rather than that they are better off by simply being greedy, because the risk of the greed was too big. It was in their best self-interest to work with one another, i.e. they were both self-centered, and were still able to co-operate. Sort of some selfish gene type stuff, I guess.
It's so funny to me (in the positive way!) that your comment actually transforms this comic into a piece of art by giving it a social commentary (and by interpreting its meaning). And by making it art, you basically give the best counterpoint against "it's not historically accurate" .
How is the one with the meat better off? He should have just merc'd the asshole that showed up demanding shit from him.
He has a friend
Stomach too full. Meat will go bad before eat all of it.
So use it to enable someone who just threatened to kill you?
Starvation will make you do crazy shit.
Still not smart to take chances on is this "starvation crazy shit" or just them being an asshole. Either way they threatened your life.
The question nobody ever asks about survival of the fittest is what actually makes someone fit to survive?
That for nature to decide!
Today: Be faster than your prey!
Tomorrow: Have endothermic heat regulation so that you survive the asteroid impact that's going to blot out the sun!
Say what you will about the game, but IRL does a decent job of switching up the meta on a regular basis. Though it's pretty frustrating when you figure out a decent strat, and then next season it's useless.
Natural selection "asks" this question all the time. What you see around you are the different answers ;)
Adaptability. Adapt or die.
I don't doubt that some small (or not?) percentage of the population do think and act and vote this way.
The rest of us allow them to exist and breed and it will be the end of our species eventually.
They went from threatening to kill each other to sharing food, then contemplating trading more food in promise of later trades. This is a message of progress and cooperation. Extrapolating this forward, I have no doubt that this is the groundwork for the teamwork you describe. Any hesitancy along the way seems like no big deal to me.
Have you seen Trump?
Tbf if you think each person here represents their own tribe, it's not a farfetched story. Tribal warfare happens all the time.
It's normal for males, even in social species, to bully food from members weaker than them. Sharing food is a sign of accepting a lower status and avoiding conflict.
Got a source?