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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Don't you see the contradiction in "she won the popular vote" and "she was a shit candidate"?

It's kinda like the contradiction that Bernie could win the general election, but 12% of his voters defecting to Trump wasn't enough to make a difference.

Leftists are going to be shouting "the DNC is corrupt" on the gallows after Trump wins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanders%E2%80%93Trump_voters

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Don’t you see the contradiction in “she won the popular vote” and “she was a shit candidate”?

No, because the popular vote isn't how US elections are won. She needed to appeal to the people in the 5 or so states that actually matter and failed to do so.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Leftists are going to be shouting “the DNC is corrupt” on the gallows after Trump wins."

This is the stupid shit is see all over lemmy that makes me so mad.... Yes the DNC SUCKS but guess what? They're the status quo right now, and the alternative is literally a fucking dictatorship that has vindictive actions as their highest priority.

There aren't even dog whistles anymore, he's using the word dictator... But yeah BomberBiden... Mr.Genocide... I get it... So that means let Trump win? Seriously?

[–] Hotchip@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah, and I'll still likely vote for Mr genocide all while being blamed for his loss. So why's it matter?

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Don’t you see the contradiction in “she won the popular vote” and “she was a shit candidate”?

Both of these things can be true. If "did not vote" had been a candidate in 2016, it would have won in a landslide. Just 8 states + DC had enough voters turn out such that any candidate won more votes than there were eligible voters that didn't bother. As a percentage of eligible voters, Clinton received 28.43% of eligible voters, with Trump trailing at 27.2% of eligible voters. While Trump outperformed Romney (2012) by 2M votes, Clinton underperformed Obama in 2012.

As a percentage of the entire US population (including those too young or other ineligible to vote) Clinton got votes from 20.30% of the population and Trump got votes from 19.41% of people.

They both sucked so badly that just over a quarter of eligible voters/less than a fifth of everybody was all it took to elect Trump

(source https://brilliantmaps.com/did-not-vote/)

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No that just shows she was more popular out of the 2 shit choices

[–] Hotchip@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

TF do you think our vote was? I can't vote any harder or some shit.

The hilarious bit was all the shit libs backing comey during russiagate. It's literally his fault she lost.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah but in their eyes it couldn't be anything wrong with her as it was her turn so couldn't have been his handling of anything