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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 110 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hey look. Its what we've been telling you it was the whole time. A genocidal eradication of a people to take their land.

The weakness of western 'democracies' is disgusting.

[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

To a certain extent. But aren't the countries in the near vicinity the most able?

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 40 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That's the problem.

The western democracies aren't weak like TropicalDingDong says, their governments have chosen their side.

And if the neighboring countries do anything about it, the western democracies will take action.

The inaction isn't due to inability, but due to apathy for the Palestinians.

[–] fastandcurious@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Saudi Arabia and the Arab world could ban the sale of oil and see biden prostrate, nobody gives a fuck about them because you can’t make money from them and being a religious minority (in the west at-least) is the icing on the cake, not to say they care about their religious brothers, it was never a reason for anything other than oppression of people they don’t like.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Saudi Arabia and the Arab world could ban the sale of oil and see biden prostrate

Like I said above, most Middle Eastern governments who aren't aligned with Iran have been tamed by the US using both carrots and sticks. Saudi Arabia wants their weapons, Egypt wants its aid, etc etc.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Saudis' also wouldn't be anywhere near as successful with an oil squeeze today as they were in the 70s.

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

the US is a net exporter of oil now.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

If they did that, the US would suddenly discover they have chemical weapons and need to be invaded ASAP.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but they are not thinking about Biden, they are probably worried about the other guy.

[–] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

worried about the other guy

Santa? Is it Santa? Because I'm pretty sure most Muslims don't believe in Santa.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah, Santa or the Grinch, I guess. You choose, but it's colored.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago

It's Western democracies that tamed Middle Eastern countries to make sure they're always on Israel's side, or at least effectively neutral. You can see it from Saudi Arabia's weapons and war in Yemen to Egypt's aid; the US spends a lot of money and political capital to buy the Middle East's cooperation in Israel's Apartheid/genocide project. And if that wasn't enough, they deployed strike carriers to make sure nobody intervenes militarily.

[–] bedrooms@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm thinking these days. The problem with democracy is that it can't be forced even if it were the correct thing to do in the pragmatic sense. If you force it, it's not democracy.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's not what they're talking about. They meant how Western democracies are supporting and/or watching Israel's genocide.