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I've seen discussions on here about Biden winning this year because he works in the ruling class's interest.

If the CIA really did just push a button at Langley and decide the next president, why not Hilary?

She's a corporate ghoul like the rest of them, loves war, everyone expected her to win, and the election was close enough to be plausible either way. She would have been a more reliable, or at least knowable, asset to the deep state than Trump.

She would have been the same mid president as Trump, but it would have been more of a banality of evil approach. Everyone's material conditions would have gotten worse in the same way but there wouldn't have been the media circus around everything she did.

So why do you think the 'most qualified' person for the job didn't win last time? And what could that say about this year?

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[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 51 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If the CIA really did just push a button at Langley and decide the next president, why not Hilary?

That's not how it works

[–] tombruzzo@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I know it's not literally the case. Beep Beep Lettuce were talking that way a few years ago when they were more blackpilled and I've seen it spoken about this way on posts here.

I know the CIA don't just pick the winner, but they do want to protect their own interests and they have experience meddling with politics overseas.

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Are you familiar with Manufacturing Consent? There's no need to interfere and hand pick candidates when the system self selects for candidates who are already on board with imperialism. Nobody has to give the president orders, they wouldn't be in the oval if they weren't all in.

Plus you can Dealey Plaza anybody who pisses you off.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

As @nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net said, you don’t need to assassinate or hand pick anyone when literally all viable candidates are ideologically aligned with your interests. Yes, Trump was uncouth and revealed America’s true personality. Yes, Hillary would’ve been a more “boring” candidate. But so what? What is the world gonna do about it? They’re gonna protest? Stop doing business with us? No. They will complain and we get an ugly mark in our history. But the deep state’s interests continue to be served.

Of course, factional disagreements ensue. Some will disdain Trump for various reasons and he threatens their personal interests. I’m sure some ar working hard and hoping for a Trump conviction. But as a class, fundamentally little is changed each time a president changes. Biden said it himself.

Democratic voters are loud when they accuse Trump and the GOP of being Hitleristic taliban traitor terrorists, but why do you think nothing is done to treat them as such politically? It’s because the democratic politicians and the ruling class in general don’t believe in such charges because it was all just a non threatening performance.

Just think of this when you think of American deep politics. The congressional baseball game. The liberal voters consider the GOP terrorist traitors, but the politicians will play a friendly game of baseball each year. They do not see politics as anything more than a friendly rivalry. Yes, things get heated sometimes, that’s natural for any competition. But at the end of the day they shake hands, respect each other privately, and make a ton of money.