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I found this here and have verified the accuracy by copy-pasting into google translate myself.

My question is, is this discrepancy due directly to an intentional decision to translate differently, or is it because google translate has been trained on news articles that have been manually translated for English-speaking audiences?

(To be clear, both paragraphs should involve one person kicking another in the nuts, unless I'm missing something.)

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[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's weird. There's no change in the wording, aside from who is kicking who, so it's not like it should be switching up the translation.

[–] nightshade@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Machine translators make heavy use of machine learning/LLMs on the back end. This is necessary to an extent since the same phrase can have different meanings depending on context, but it also means that the usual biases from machine learning can crop up easily. The most famous example is that if you translated something like "I waved to the doctor" and "I waved to the nurse" to Spanish, it used to give the masculine form/pronouns for the first sentence and the feminine form/pronouns for the second sentence, even though there is no indication of gender in the English version. So there's a good chance that the context of who is kicking who can cause Google Translate to interpret the same phrase differently due to this bias.

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It might also be trying to translate on a phrase or sentence level and applying statistics. The two sentences might occur in more contexts (in their statistical model) where they one gets translated literally and the other idiomatically.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

that's what's meant by bias in this context. those statistical differences arise due to bias.