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If the CIA just decides who wins an election based on the interests of the ruling class, why didn't Hilary win 2016? (hexbear.net)

submitted 10 months ago by tombruzzo@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net

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I've seen discussions on here about Biden winning this year because he works in the ruling class's interest.

If the CIA really did just push a button at Langley and decide the next president, why not Hilary?

She's a corporate ghoul like the rest of them, loves war, everyone expected her to win, and the election was close enough to be plausible either way. She would have been a more reliable, or at least knowable, asset to the deep state than Trump.

She would have been the same mid president as Trump, but it would have been more of a banality of evil approach. Everyone's material conditions would have gotten worse in the same way but there wouldn't have been the media circus around everything she did.

So why do you think the 'most qualified' person for the job didn't win last time? And what could that say about this year?

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[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Since when was either Trump or Hilary any better in government for the ruling class? Lesson 101 on American democracy is that they're both pro-ruling class, so it doesn't really matter. Neither was going to seriously affect the status quo for the bourgeoisie.

[–] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hillary was absolutely better for ruling class interests. Trump eroded us hegemony around the globe

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You talk like the ruling class form a complete, intelligent conspiracy to increase American hegemony, rather than a bunch of short term self-obsessed line-go-upists with a shared interest in line-go-up.

Trump made the line go up for lots of the ruling class, and that's all they cared about.

[–] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't believe you can really say this when there has been a concerted effort on the part of the ruling class to remove Trump from office and ensure he never gets anywhere near the levers of power again literally from day 1 of his administration, and continuing to the present.

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Well yeah, sure. Because Trump also made line not go up quite so much for some other parts of the ruling class. I'm not saying they both benefit all of the ruling class equally. But they are both very transparently bolstering the bourgeois class in general.