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Am I too sensitive for finding it beyond cringe when crackers throw around the term "zen-like"? (hexbear.net)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by Umechan@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net
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I saw some people on Reddit discussing whether someone was being orientalist, and I agreed they were simply by using the phrase "zen-like concentration". I'm not offended by them using this term, I just find it stupid. "Zen-like" has absolutely no meaning, but gives an air of eastern spirituality and mysticism. I personally think you should only be able to use that phrase if you can give a detailed and verifiable explanation about the differences between zen-like concentration, huayan-like concentration, mahasthabir nikaya-like concentration, and chan-like concentration, as well as recognize that the last one is exactly the same as zen.

And why is it only ever "zen-like"? I'm sure everyone would find it strange if Asians suddenly started to use the terms "seventh day adventism-like" or "independent fundamentalist baptist-like" to refer to the elements of American culture they find exotic.

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[–] if_they_push_that_button_your_ass_got_to_go@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

Zen Buddhism is also pretty strange, like as someone (white western) who really values meditation and the psychology aspects of Buddhism, isn't zen kind of like a fusion between Buddhism and Shinto and bushido to make a Buddhism that allows violence and Japanese supremacy as part of its structure?

Zen Buddhism has some really good koans tho, so what do i know