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Continuing to increase the world population is absolutely nuts.

*I'm not interested in gradual natural declines from whatever factors. 2 max implemented now.

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[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's almost always childless young men saying this.

For a truly contentious opinion I'd love to see a married woman with three kids say it.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean, okay let's break that down.

Young men, okay I'm a man in my late 30s, so throw young out as your argument. Second my wife shares the same thoughts, so, I don't want to speak to her but maybe the gender side isn't as important either.

Childless, well yes, my wife and I are both childless because of the massive problems facing the world today, mostly caused by overpopulation. I'd say being childless is more of a logical conclusion to having these thoughts rather than the other way around. It's also more likely in your assumptions that a married woman with 3 kids would be pro having kids.

I don't know what you thought you were proving, but to me it's very logical why childless people are the people who are in favor of people having less children.

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It was a flippant throwaway comment. I'm in my 40s, also married and also childless by choice. My partner and I being very similar to you.

I wasn't proving anything, just making a subtle joke about a parent effectively eliminating one of their children.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Got it, sorry I didn't not pick up on the joke. I've been accused by my parents for being selfish that I don't want kids and so I take things as "only young dumb people have these opinions" a bit too personally. Appreciate the explanation

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh no, no need to apologise it was a pretty weak joke... But solidarity, I've had that too.

And getting asked "is everything ok?" as if we can't have kids, rather than chose not to.

And the emotional blackmail about no grandchildren.

I think it really unnerves some folk.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

I stopped talking to my mother (with rare exception) due to that very emotional blackmail. Knew I didn't want kids but started hounding me about "grandbabies" when I was all of 17.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

The opinion that childfree people must be young, immature, and selfish is shockingly common.

Having children is a selfish choice as well--people have them because they want them. That's selfish. It's not wrong, but it's not some altruistic deed, either.

At least society is slowly coming around to the idea that having children is a choice and not a requirement.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

People with 3-4 kids regretting a couple of them is perhaps more common than you'd think. I've known people with 2 kids - like, had kids at 18 and 20 with someone they broke up with at 23 and then had to spend the next 15 years collaborating with on custody and child-rearing even though they hated each other - who would dream what their lives would be like if they hadn't decided to reproduce vs. going to college or enjoying their youth.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No kidding (ha!), I didn't have kids because i think the entire idea is stupid. So yes, I'd suggest that other people have less also.