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  • Donald Trump has to cut a fat check, and his appeal of the E. Jean Carroll verdict won't delay that.
  • Within 30 days of the judge's written judgment, Trump has to turn over either cash or a bond.
  • While he appeals the verdict, Carroll can't touch that money — but neither can Trump.
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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago (3 children)

He doesn't have it to hand over. That's over three times what the judge in his fraud trial said Mar-a-Lago was worth (Trump claimed it was worth $1 billion).

[–] teejay@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (3 children)

He doesn't have it to hand over

Yes he does. He has to either pay the judgement to her, or put it in escrow if he plans to appeal.

That's over three times what the judge in his fraud trial said Mar-a-Lago was worth (Trump claimed it was worth $1 billion).

I don't understand this statement. Are you suggesting that the reason you think he doesn't have to pay is because it's a lot of money?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 67 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I think you misread what I wrote.

I said "He doesn’t have it to hand over" not "he doesn't have to hand it over."

He doesn't have it to hand over because he's not that rich.

[–] teejay@lemmy.world 38 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Shoot, my bad, you're right. I misread that as "he doesn't have to hand it over".

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No problem. I think I could have been clearer. Chalk it up to the perils of communicating over text with no vocal inflections.

[–] aspire2493@sh.itjust.works 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I give both of you an A+ in communication. You can now kiss or not up to you two really

[–] groupofcrows@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is a lot of sexual tension between those two.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 2 points 9 months ago

I'm writing the erotic fanfic now

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 17 points 9 months ago

gonna just point out the collective PTSD we are all suffering. I also initially read it incorrectly and didnt bother re-reading because... well... "its the orange asshole - of course he's avoiding consequence... again!"

this puss filled ass boil needs to see jail time.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 months ago

I misread it as well. Better to just be blunt and say "Trump is broke as fuck"

[–] SaintWacko@midwest.social 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Wow, yeah, my brain absolutely read "He doesn't have to hand it over" 😂

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I can see how my choice of words could have been confusing.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He doesn’t have it to hand over because he’s not that rich.

I've reread it 6 times and still having trouble parsing it.

[–] Nfamwap@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can he hand it over?

No, because he doesn't have it.

He doesn't have it to hand over.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Yes. He doesn't not have it to not have hand it over.

[–] ElleChaise@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

Mine too. Reading too quickly for that series of words to come out correctly, I guess?

[–] rab@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago

Even after you clarified here I still had to analyse those sentences for the difference

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not the person you replied to, but I believe the person is saying "he doesn't have it, so therefore he cannot hand over something he doesn't have."

[–] teejay@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Yep, that was my mistake.

[–] sharkaccident@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Yes he does. He has to either pay the judgement to her, or put it in escrow if he plans to appeal

No he doesn't. I hate trump as much as anyone else, but all he has to do is get someone else to post bond (he will still have to provide a percentage to cover). There is a long list of people/companies/countries that would take that gamble assuming he gets reelected.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 17 points 9 months ago

Of course he can. He just can't say it's to help him get reelected. Smartest thing for him to do right now is spin up another set of "ai" nft images for his fan base to buy, to "help with the prosecution" he is suffering.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

He cannot use campaign funds but PACs are not the same thing and Trump has directed much of his fundraising into PACs. The courts have shown zero willingness to address this because a PAC is a corporation and corporation are imaginary people and since the rules don't apply to billionaires, the rules definitely don't matter to imaginary ones.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

He will grift it from his donors, like he always does.

That's less than $2 per 2020 Trump voter, and he gets more popular every time a judgment goes against him.

At some point it will run out but I don't think this is the last straw.