That's a potentially failure of management to provide adequate work or oversight. Or the person is being paid based on output and not "ass in seat" time. Either way, the company is clearly ok enough with it not to say anything to the employee, so fuck it and do what you have to for your check and skate the rest of the way.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social -4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I think it's true that some of it is failure of management for work oversight, but the "just skate and get by" mentality is actually unfair to the employer. I mean one person said to me, "Why can't I go shop and go to my appointments, it's not my fault those businesses are only open during the day."

That's true, but when you commit to work for an employer, you know what your work hours are expected to be. I had to do it too, working the daily grind in an office for decades, and if I needed to go to a doctor's or dentist's appoint, I'd let my employer know and ask for the time off.

Yeah it sucks and it's not total freedom or a license to skate through life, but that's just the way it is when you have a job.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

the "just skate and get by" mentality is actually unfair to the employer

Yeah, and the vast difference between productivity increases and that of wages over the last 40 years is even more fair to the employees. Sorry if I don't cry about how unfair it is to the employer when an employee does the bare minimum to get paid. And I say that for both RFH and in person positions.

That's true, but when you commit to work for an employer, you know what your work hours are expected to be

And you're assuming that they're not meeting those core requirements. Apparently they're meeting their employer's expectations on work output/availability, so why do you care? Some of us that work from home have great flexibility and can just go to appointments and have our managers be ok with that. Hell, I've had in person gigs that felt the same. I got my stuff done and ran the errands that needed run.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social -2 points 9 months ago

Ok.

[–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 4 points 9 months ago

"just skate by" = do what I've been paid to do. When I was younger I hustled and put a lot extra in and as I got older I realised it was a waste of time, got me nowhere and added a lot of stress to my life.

I do what in paid to do, I do it well, but I'm not doing anymore than that and neither should anyone have to

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Not all jobs are measured by time spent on the clock, so no it doesn't have to be that way. Many jobs can and should be measured by simply meeting productivity requirements. A parking attendants job is being present on shift because that is a requirement of that job. But a programmer's job is to create software that performs a certain way. There is no time requirement of the product there.

Just cause you suffered your way through it doesn't mean you should encourage others to do the same.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social -1 points 9 months ago

Okey dokey.