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Hamas being the wrong one? Certainly but they did NOT start it.
You, Israel did start it certainly. 1948, stealing the land, illegal settlements, driving 750 000 Palestinian out and murdering many. Not to forget the Apartheid that’s been going on ever since then.
1987 Hamas was created purely because of all what happened in these years. When peaceful revolution is not possible, violent revolution is inevitable.
Yes. What Hamas did and probably still is doing - is wrong.
It is also wrong what Israel has been doing ever since they became a “state”, an illegal state.
The land, the country belongs to the Palestinians. An occupier cannot become its owner.
You (Israel) is just as (if not worse) bad as Hamas. You the one who is killing thousands upon thousands of people. Genocide.
That many countries refuse to acknowledge that an actual genocide is happening, does not mean that it is not happening - because it is happening.
True story, when you drop your country on a bunch of indigenous people, it's a crime.
No need to relocate. Just make sure they're able to take part in the governing of their current country. Really, we already looked at this problem in the rest of the world when Colonialism ended after World War 2. Yeah that means Israel isn't going to be a Jewish country anymore but fuck around and find out.
Sure because Israel didn't blockade Gaza entirely in an effort to prevent Hamas from taking it's seat as the Palestinian government. And Israel totally didn't embark on a campaign of assassination and destroying civil infrastructure and personnel.
You're beyond gilding the lily at this point. You're straight up ignoring history and flirting with the idea that Palestinians don't deserve a government.
Yeah that's exactly what I'm saying. And come back to me when Austria is preventing Slovakia from actually governing or building any infrastructure.
Security Checks != Blockade.
Uhhh, that's funny because Israel completely controls the Gazan border. Even the Egyptian section is subject to Israeli oversight and the second the Egyptians made rumblings about letting aid in Israel sent troops to physically secure it and prevent that from happening.
Nope, it's a long standing agreement. Trucks crossing the border have to drive down to an Israeli inspection point before entering Gaza. Israel physically controlled the border until 2005. And this agreement is what keeps Israeli troops off the border.
And Egypt has an agreement with them such that any trucks entering have to drive down the border to an Israeli entrance before going to Gaza. Which gives Israel De Facto control. Israel has also announced they intend to take physical control of the border again, in violation of their treaty with Egypt.
British Mandate Period:
The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948
Palestinian Arab Congress advocating for Unified State 1928
1929 Riots from Forward and 972Mag
Shaw Commission
Peel Commission Report and Memorandum of the Arab Higher Committee 1937
1936-1939 Revolt from JVL, Britannica, MEE
Irgun and Lehi activity
1948 to 1967:
Plan Dalet and Declassified Massacres
Arab League advocating for unified state 1948
1967 war Declassified
Israel Martial Law and Defence (Emergency) Regulations practiced in the occupied territories after 1967
Occupation:
Palestinian Prisoners in Israel and Military Court
Child abuse of Palestinian prisoners
Gaza March for Return Protest
Palestinians lack civil rights
Occupation and 50 years of dispossession
AWRAD Gaza War Poll
PCPSR Public Opinion Poll Dec 2023
Hamas founding charter and Revised charter 2017
One State Solution, Foreign Affairs archived here
10 Myths of Israel
History of peace process
How the US became the ally of Israel
Arab Israelis are not equal including Education (2001 report)
Apartheid
Human Shields including Children (2013 Report)
Settler Violence
Torture and Abuse in Interrogations
No freedom of movement
Gaza Blockade is Occupation
Water control
I'm just going to tuck this post away for the next time I see some pro genocide poster saying the Palestinians started anything.
I’m not going to educate you through Lemmy, you got to educate yourself. Only then you’ll understand such important things.
I can’t write the entire thing, I’ll be busy my entire life time for your satisfaction.
The way Israel was made is a crime. What they’re doing is a crime, genocide.
EDIT: Checking your comment history, you are a Pro-Genocide & Pro-Israel person. My point, there’s no point arguing or discussing with you. You claimed in one of your other comments that Israel isn’t doing anything wrong and that all wars were started by Arabs. You are delusional and probably a Zionist.
Blocked you are.
I edited my previous comment, read it.