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He signed an executive order on Thursday, saying violence had reached "intolerable levels".

The sanctions will block the individuals from accessing all US property and other assets.

Violence in the West Bank has spiked since Hamas's 7 October attack on Israel.

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[–] Yewb@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

All of these things are vastly more complicated than it appears on the surface - to say that they shouldn't do a thing because they should do another thing is not productive, hey lets just do nothing and be mad about it on the internet guys.

And what does anything have to do with Michigan? Are you a real person?

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, I am a real person. Demographic shifts, which are very well known to every political person, have made Muslim Americans a required component of a democratic win in most of the mid west swing states, but especially Michigan.

The Democratic party is starting to freak out because Biden's explicit backing of a genocide has dropped his support among Muslim Americans from 60-65% into the single digits.

The Electoral map for a Democratic win without the Midwest Muslim American vote is so unrealistic as to be fantasy.

This is why they are doing this. It's a throwaway token gesture. And the people it's supposed to appease know it too.

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"Liberals and Jews are conspiring together to commit genocide."

Wasn't true when Hitler went around claiming it, and it almost certainly isn't now.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Go pedal your anti-Semitic 'Jewish people are all members of Israel and any criticism of a white nationalist apartheid ethnostate is antisemitic' nonsense elsewhere.

The ICJ ruled that Israel is plausibly committing genocide, and multiple human rights orbs have declared Israel an apartheid country.

But, you know what? We don't need them. Anyone who knows anything about history or war knows that a country that tries to deal with a problematic population by completely cutting of ftheir access to food, medicine, and potable water is committing genocide.

Keep justifying the indefensible.

Never again meant never again for everybody.

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I never said criticizing Israel is antisemitic. I said accusing tbem of genocide is almost certainly anti-semitic, based on tbe fact that it has been every other it eas claimed. If you are going to share the claims of thousands of years worth of antisemites, yoi have to be able to explain how you are different.

You haven't done that, but i'm willing to give you that opportunity.

But also, i 100% believe you when you say you don't need the people who actually determine whether something is a genocide to agree with you.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

And yet, they still did agree that Israel was plausibly committing genocide.

I did, in fact, explain my criterion, and it is true regardless which country does it, and it is why I say with confidence it's why Israel is committing genocide. You just glossed over it, because it didn't fit with your narrative.

If a government deals with a population it feels is problematic by cutting off food, medicine, and potable water to that population, that government is in the process of committing genocide.

Good job devaluing the meaning of the word anti-semitic in your rush to defend genocide.

EDIT: I sincerely hope you never try to eat grass due to starvation because a government is blocking all attempts to give you food. I hope this even though you are actively defending the government doing the starving right now.

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When the ICJ makes their ruling and hits Israel with the war crimes they have done but fully expel all genocide claims, are you going to accept their findings?

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you capable of reading?

I will say it a third time for those so caught up in their own jurisdiction of genocide that they no longer have reading comprehension.

Any country that deals with a population it considers problematic by completely restricting access to food, medicine, and potable water is a government committing genocide.

It's not a hard to understand concept. Why have you ignored this simple criterion that Israel is publicly doing three times in a row?

Stop defending genocide by hiding behind false claims, made in bad faith, of anti-semitism.

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I will ask again, when the ICJ makes their decision and hits Israel for war crimes but not genocide, will you accept you were wrong?

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Again. I've already answered your question.

Tell me again why claims of genocide are antisemitic when the literal court adjudicating claims of genocide have found that Israel is plausibly committing genocide?

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You keep using the word plausible. Is that from a direct quote in any ICJ ruling? May you provide the quote?

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

I got bored: https://www.npr.org/2024/01/27/1227397107/icj-finds-genocide-case-against-israel-plausible-orders-it-to-stop-violations

That is literally the first hit from google. I know you won’t read it, but you should.

You should also really watch South Africa’s presentation: https://webtv.un.org/en/asset/k11/k11gf661b3

And the courts findings yourself, and get your news from a primary source: https://webtv.un.org/en/asset/k1u/k1uwq4cxuv

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago

https://www.npr.org/2024/01/27/1227397107/icj-finds-genocide-case-against-israel-plausible-orders-it-to-stop-violations

That is literally the first hit from google. I know you won’t read it, but you should.

You should also really watch South Africa’s presentation: https://webtv.un.org/en/asset/k11/k11gf661b3

And the courts findings yourself, and get your news from a primary source: https://webtv.un.org/en/asset/k1u/k1uwq4cxuv

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

A group of Muslim Democrats from Michigan refused to meet with a Biden campaign representative recently.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Trump's also pulled ahead in the head to head polling over it.

This is what shooting yourself in the face to protect votes in deep blue states looks like.