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Overall, 39% of U.S. adults say they are "extremely proud" to be American in the most recent poll.

Meanwhile, only 18% of those aged 18-34 said the same, compared to 40% of those aged 35-54 and 50% of those 55 and over.

18% is still too high. As Obama's pastor said, God damn America! Americans have very little to be proud of at this point.

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[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not young and I'm really not proud. It's honestly embarrassing. Trump was a disgrace and ruined any sense of pride I had.

[–] FJW@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly: For all his many, many, many faults, he was still a massive improvement over Bush junior. His insurrection and the way he handled Covid was terrible, but the Iraq-war was worse and unforgivable.

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'll have to disagree on that one. Bush sucked but he was better. The left and right weren't at war with each other, we could have conversations and discussions. Now you cannot.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I agree with you.

I had a discussion with a coworker just before a company meeting during W's 2nd campaign and I expressed how terrible I thought he was and even said I couldn't understand how or why anyone would vote for him... My coworker told me that he voted for him, thought he'd been doing a great job, and planned to vote for him again... And that was all there was to it... No animosity, judgement, or hard feelings between us ... We just never discussed it again.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, they both sucked but in very different ways.

Bush weakened many of our institutions and lead us into two forever wars. And a huge recession in which he did diddly squat to get us out of it.

Trump is a traitor and embraced a Russian psyops campaign against the American public while getting his face full of shit.

[–] Signtist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, if we keep having this tendency to say someone wasn't too bad once someone worse comes around, we'll just end up thinking Trump was great by comparison to whatever crappy politician we have as president in 20 years.

[–] KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bush was worse, due to Iraq, but I still wouldn't say Trump was a massive improvement. He was still an imperialist, like Bush, and almost started a war with Iran

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

We know the extent of the damage Bush caused. We won't fully grasp what Trump has ruined for a generation