But the thing is it's really fun and exciting to work with, the open source community is extremely nice and helpful, one of the most non toxic fields I have dabbled in! It's very fun to test parameters tools and write code chains to try different stuff and it's come a long way, it's rewarding too because you get really fun responses

[–] Fudoshin@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Aren't the open source LLMs still censored though? I read someone make an off-hand comment that one of the big ones (OLLAMA or something?) was censored past version 1 so you couldn't ask it to tell you how to make meth?

I don't wanna make meth but if OSS LLMs are being censored already it makes having a local one pretty fucking pointless, no? You may as well just use ChatGPT. Pray tell me your thoughts?

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Depends who and how the model was made. Llama is a meta product and its genuinely really powerful (i wonder where zuckerberg gets all the data for it)

Because its powerful you see many people use it as a starting point to develop their own ai ideas and systems. But its not the only decent open source model and the innovation that work for one model often work for all others so it doesn’t matter in the end.

Every single model used now will be completely outdated and forgotten in a year or 2. Even gpt4 en geminni

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 months ago

Holy crap didnt expect him to admit it this soon:

Zuck Brags About How Much of Your Facebook, Instagram Posts Will Power His AI

[–] Kittenstix@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Could be legal issues, if an llm tells you how to make meth but gets a step or two wrong and results in your death, might be a case for the family to sue.

But i also don't know what all you mean when you say censorship.

[–] Fudoshin@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But i also don’t know what all you mean when you say censorship.

It was literally just that. The commentor I saw said something like "it's censored after ver 1 so don't expect it to tell you how to cook meth.

But when I hear the word "censored" I think of all the stuff ChatGPT refuses to talk about. It won't write jokes about protected groups and VAST swathes of stuff around it. Like asking it to define "fag-got" can make it cough and refuse even though it's a British food-stuff.

Blocking anything sexual - so no romantic/erotica novel writing.

The latest complaint about ChatGPT is it's laziness which I can't help feeling is due to over-zealous censorship. Censorship doesn't just block the specific things but entirely innocent things (see fag-got above).

Want help writing a book about Hilter beoing seduced by a Jewish woman and BDSM scenes? No chance. No talking about Hitler, sex, Jewish people or BDSM. That's censorship.

I'm using these as examples - I've no real interest in these but I am affected by annoyances and having to reword requests because they've been mis-interpreted as touching on censored subjects.

Just take a look at r/ChatGPT and you'll see endless posts by people complaining they triggered it's censorship over asinine prompts.

[–] Kittenstix@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Oh ok, then yea that's a problem, any censorship that's not directly related to liability issues should be nipped in the bud.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 9 months ago

No there are many uncensored ones as well