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Umberto Eco. Timothy Snyder. Fascism has been studied. MAGA meets the criteria. You conflated 2016 with 2020. Trump and MAGA couldn’t be classified as fascist in 2016. By 2020 it should have been obvious. 74 million said, “Give me more of that fascism.” The Nazis were fascist, therefore Trump is a Nazi. The people that voted for him, voted for fascism. Therefore, they are fascist. Logic, bro. I don’t like it. I have family that are fascist. I’m not going to wait for them to turn over my gay neighbors before calling them fascist. Learn what it is now, before it’s too late.
What “fascism” are people asking for? Actual examples that meet the definition of fascism please.
In your link, what criteria does "MAGA" meet? (I'll humour you and overlook the fact that "MAGA" is literally just a catchphrase for returning america to being "the (self proclaimed) greatest country on earth").
America has a 2 party system. Democrats and republicans. If you don't like the democrats and their policies and handling of the country, you vote republican. That doesn't mean you're a Nazi, and anyone suggesting it does is just telling people to ignore them and their crazy opinions.
Your logic is "I declare trump a fascist, therefore anyone that votes for him is a nazi". That's terrible, terrible, idiotic logic.
Also not really sure who declared Umberto Eco the expert on Fascism.
Learn to debate. The logic is sound. You just can’t hear it.
Eco literally grew up in Mussolini’s(the original) fascist Italy. He wrote the book on fascism. Literally.
He wrote a book on fascism.
The logic is not sound. The entire "logic" is based on wanting something to be fascism, so calling it fascism, and then using that same terrible "logic" to classify tens of millions of people as a nazi based on nothing other than wanting to call them nazis.
I guess I'll keep waiting for those actual examples that meet the definition of fascism, right? Surely you're going to list them, right?
Your ignorance is boring me. C’mon man. Give me something to convince me. At least give me doubts. The description of fascism is in the links. MAGA meets the criteria. Nazis were fascist. MAGA = Nazi. Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t mean it’s not true. They are never going to declare themselves Fascist or Nazis. Would you?
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