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Its seems too ridiculous to be real.

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[โ€“] Huldra@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The whole thing of being completely unaware before some activation phrase makes you follow all your programming is just hollywood shit and bullshit claims from hypnotist snake oil salesmen.

If you try and look at all the separate claims for how that type of stuff is supposed to work its just total calvinball, one person will say its something you need to basically prepare a person for from infancy in order to be able to program them, and then another guy will just say some shit like "Nah you just gotta be good at hypnosis, I actually did this all the time back in WW2 before any of these other guys even came up with the idea."

[โ€“] Huldra@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Also then you google the second guys name and find out that what he actually did back in WW2 was send fanmail to J Edgar Hoover about hypnosis and also tried to set up his own freelance counter-espionage circle at some university, while impersonating an FBI agent, until some student told his parents and they complained to the actual FBI.

Not even hyperbole, google "George Estabrooks" and check out the FOIA material on him on The Black Vault, its extremely funny, he starts mailing random ideas about submarine defense that Hoover has to tell him to send to the Navy instead. Eventually the FBI documents start including a note that if he tries to talk to the director of the FBI, to instead send him to someone who knows how to use a lie detector.