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[–] CylonBunny@lemmy.world 125 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Maybe at a cushy white collar office job. I work at a hospital. There is no down time when you are on the clock, that’s true for nurses, doctors, housekeeping, pharmacy, lab, food service - I’d imagine the same is also true for all sort of service industry workers, and also factory workers, farmers, construction, and so so many others. Let’s stop pretending that everyone just sits in front of a computer all day.

[–] DragonAce@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Whats sad is that most of those jobs are just insanely and intentionally understaffed (and underpaid), which is precisely why they're so demanding.

[–] SpeakinTelnet@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago

It's almost like we should have started investing in better education and replacing manually repetitive tasks with automation.

Machines should have been a relief from the hardship of life, not a mean to gain more profit for a few individuals.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those are the first jobs we need to change into 4 hours for 3 days shifts or something. It's dangerous for everyone to work without sufficient recovery

[–] Just_A_Human@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. I definitely would not want a nurse or a doctor to operate on me when there on the last stretches of a 12 hour shift, running on 5 hours of sleep. The only question I ask any doctor, nurse or dentist before they start any procedure on me is "how many hours of sleep did you get last night"... Anything less than 6-7 hours puts me in more risk than I'd accept!

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Even truck drivers etc. have mandatory work:rest-ratios. It should be a norm

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's criminal how you are all treated because of purposeful under-staffing. Everyone needs downtime. The human mind does not go full throttle for 8-12 hours straight, and I'm well aware you often have longer shifts than that in a hospital! If medical staff had some downtime during their shifts, patient outcomes would improve, and not just by a little bit.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

We need to mandate a certain level of staffing so this shit stops.

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

I just posted the same thing. I used to be a bartender/ server and work in retail. You DON'T rest. Not on your own schedule at least

My work is hybrid these days and I have tasks to complete instead of just drink from the firehose of task garbage being thrown my way. I can control the ebb and flow of my workday and slack or be a champion as needed.

Oh, I work 4 9 hour day weeks too. My quality of life is better in every way and i STILL dick around certain days. You probably make a lot more than I do but it's not worth it to get home and have zero bandwidth

[–] Powerpoint@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

It would be better if you were 4 days instead of 5. You'd have better productivity and recovery.

[–] Erk@cdda.social 14 points 1 year ago

I'm a doctor and intentionally set my own hours to four day work weeks whenever I can, because I run my own practice and can do that. Let's not pretend it's a badge of honour to grind ourselves into a twitching mess.

[–] suspecm@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

To be fair, for those jobs the 5 day workweek, as it is known traditionally, has never been true. They were always either doing starnge shifts like 24 hours twice then 2 free days, repeat or working way more than 5 days a week, based on demand (which of course has been increasing since businesses hire less and less for some fuckin reason).

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 10 points 1 year ago

This is exactly my problem as well... We wanted to try a 4 day work week at my factory but they said no because we need to ship things 5 days a week... Except for the fact that we almost never ship more than 1 or 2 things in any given day and they are rarely things that need to go asap... One day wouldn't kill them but they're stuck in the past.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I assure you that "sitting in front of a computer" is less ideal than you seem to think it is

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Well, it's kinda depressing when you conclude no particular task for a day, yet still feel boiled due to tired eyes, headache etc.

[–] Just_A_Human@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

You're a human being, not a human doing. You need and deserve downtime. You are not a machine. You must find a way. If there's a will, there's a way.

[–] Kungfusnorlax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Obviously white collar workers need help.

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

Can't we agree that everyone's job is difficult in one way or another instead of making it a dick-measuring contest?

Everyone deserves a job that doesn't make them want to die as well as to make enough money to live off.

[–] Oneeightnine@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

I work five days in a warehouse. If I go more than five minutes without scanning a box then it alerts the manager and they'll come down and see what's occurring.

So yeah. I feel like this stat is more for office sorts who (and I may be wrong here) spend a lot of time on Reddit and Facebook during the work day.